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Australia KGV 1-D Red (1915) - Anything Interesting Here?

 
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Posted 08/28/2011   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This stamp seems pretty scruffy in the area to the back of the king's head and behind. Is this what people mean when they talk about 'rusted cliche'? I really have no idea what this term refers to, but the impression I've gained from online research is something along these lines. Regardless, clarification of the 'rusted cliche' matter would be greatly appreciated, particularly as I have a big lot of these due to arrive hopefully this week!



Thanks for looking!
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Posted 08/28/2011   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Tin shed" flaws? Although possibly a bit too early.

I can say, however, that it definitely isn't a rusted cliché. Sorry to disappoint you.

I don't have an adequate picture to post. Hopefully someone else has the real thing!

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Posted 08/28/2011   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The rusted cliches refer to two adjoining cliches
that became damaged due to rat urine, in storage.
(It's powerful stuff, I have seen it eat through a stainless steel wash trough)
The printing plates were cleaned and used
and indicate spotting behind the kings head,
and lightly down the left frame.
Rather more advanced than your stamp.
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Posted 08/28/2011   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So what kind of damage are we seeing here?

I note that many KGVs have this scruffy look in parts and I'm wondering what causes it.
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Posted 08/28/2011   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The so-called "Tin Shed" flaws were caused by the adherence of gum to the upper surface of the paper. The design was then printed over the gum, and after the stamps were used and soaked, the gum dissolved. This results in irregular patches of the design disappearing.

They are called "Tin Shed" because of the primitive conditions in which they were printed.
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Posted 08/28/2011   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info, Plateflaw.

I wonder if any photos exist showing the stamps being printed.
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Posted 08/28/2011   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "splotching" appears to affect the cancel, too, in the leg of the T and the left leg of the A, especially. Assuming something hasn't adhered to the face of the stamp, would that support a tin-shed theory?
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Posted 08/28/2011   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a tough call, the quote in the specialists cat,
says they "vary in size up to areas covering one sixth of the stamp"
and "small patches"
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Posted 08/28/2011   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at it some more, and looking particularly at the rest of the ring outside the area behind George's head, the cancel isn't covering many of the whitish areas too completely (i.e., there is a lot of show-through).

To put it another way, I no longer think the T and A areas of the cancel have lifted off.
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Posted 08/28/2011   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I share your opinion, but with dabbling
in the Georgian heads, it is a very exacting study,
and I don't know enough about them to be sure.
I would have expected KG5 to join the discussion

Nice "Moonta" pmk, we used to holiday there in the 1960's
as a family, beautiful aqua blue seas of the Spencer Gulf
In 1915 it would have been a hive of activity with Copper Mining
(pop 12,000)
They called it "little Cornwall" and I remember tucking
into some fabulous Cornish Pasties.

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