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Posted 07/09/2008   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add boxofstamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
ok this you can see from the pic. that it is 11x11 perf.
what do you think it is 552 594 596



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Posted 07/10/2008   04:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Yes, sure looks 11 x 11 perf, so now you have to measure with a precise ruler than shows fractions of mm. Often the perf gauge has a mm rule that is divided into 1/4 mm or better.
Measuring from edge of stamp design. Due to the ink action, they may be off a
hair.According to Scott's:

552 ( flat plate) = 19 1/4mm x 22 1/4 mm

594 ( rotary) = 19 3/4mm x 22 1/4mm

596 ( rotary) = 19 1/4mm x 22 1/2 mm

Good luck!

Jim
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Posted 07/10/2008   04:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlorenz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is a site that may help you identify your stamp(s)

http://www.1847usa.com/Sc551_686.ht...935%20Series

Hope it helps
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rick l
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Posted 07/10/2008   04:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Interesting, they say for 596 it should ideally be as much as 23mm. I wonder why the slight difference from Scott and implying a variation. I wonder if they changed the diameter of the wheel during the production of the printer's sheet waste ( smaller diameter should make it longer I think)and several different printings were perfed 11x 11? Anyone know more?

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Posted 07/10/2008   08:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add boxofstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is the mm on it.

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Posted 07/10/2008   08:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Ok, the top/bottom looks to be the 19 1/4, now need to measure the vertical sides to determine between 552 (22 1/4) and 596 (22 1/2 or more according to above reference.).

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Posted 07/10/2008   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add boxofstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
when I leave work and get home I will scan the last side and post. I know the 552 is less the a $1.00 right like $0.20 or so. what about the 596. I don't think my luck it that good. lol
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Posted 07/10/2008   2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Haa, if it is 596, you may not need to work for a while. Around $100,000, minus
the auction fees. But the large majority of the 596 were precancelled with "Kansas City, Mo." and not with regular cancellation type lines like this one. But once you have experienced the thrill of the chase, it doesn't die. You will always look at each 1 cent green and hope someday to see that precancel

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Posted 07/10/2008   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add boxofstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
that would make a great gift for me if it is. but with my luck. I should lick it and mail it now. lol
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Posted 07/10/2008   5:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add boxofstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
scan of side

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Posted 07/10/2008   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

From the scan looks like 22mm or a small amount over, but unfortunately not close to 22 1/2mm I would say.The lines on the ruler are a little thick since they are printed. With a caliper you could be closer with the accuracy, but I don't think it would matter, it is a visible distance away. Now if you have mastered watermarks, you will have most of the specs you will need to separate stamps except for color and paper type. I think paper type is more difficult.

Looks like you have a 552

Jim
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Posted 07/10/2008   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlorenz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jim I agree telling paper apart is very hard for me I wonder if they make a paper wheel similar to a color wheel. If any one knows please let us know !!
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Posted 07/11/2008   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The only thing I know is to collect a damaged or space filler stamp of the most specific area's paper. Much of the paper type is security paper and wasn't readily available to the public, but paper changes so much under different humidity especially I wonder how to tell? I keep my color comparator in a dark envelope when not used so it won't fade. I wish someone would correlate the pantone(tm) color to the Scott's color, or maybe they have. It would made comparison so much more consistent. But probably Scott has a (tm) on their color specifications like they do for their numbers

The only paper I can recognize well is the "silk" paper with the colored fibers such as early Swiss.

Jim
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