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Writing On The Border Of A Stamp, Less Value?

 
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Posted 09/21/2011   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SueStamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Everyone,

I have these stamps, pair.. I think it's called?
Anyway, I have a question...

If the area around the stamp is called the border, what is the area below the stamp (with the hand writing on it) as shown in this photo called?

If there is writing on this area, does it lessen the value of the pair if so, by a lot or a little?

Thank you,
SueStamps



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Posted 09/21/2011   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom area shown on that pair is called the "selvedge".

As this is selvedge without an inscription number, printer name or other reference to the production of the stamp, it has no value and, therefore, the writing does not affect it. If it was a corner block where the selvedge appears on the right or left side as well, then the writing would reduce the value.

I know nothing about stamps from Chile, but it appears to be a catalogue reference number and its retail value.
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Posted 09/21/2011   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add beezer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While the writing detracts from the beauty of the stamps in my opinion (more of a distraction really), I do not believe this would lessen the value of the pair. If that is a concern you could always just remove it.
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Posted 09/21/2011   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sue Stamps, I'm not 100% sure but it looks like 2 slightly different stamps, maybe a 207 and 206.
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Posted 09/21/2011   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please be careful,
some selvedge indicia is valuable if perhaps
applied by the postal clerk in audit.

Always retain unless you can confirm it is grafitti,
you just never know.


Selvedge markings from the printing plate...



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Edited by rod222 - 09/21/2011 9:46 pm
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Posted 09/21/2011   9:45 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
AS for the writing, it is poor practice on the part of whomever wrote on it to do so regardless of its affect on value. It WILL steer prospective buyers away from it.
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Posted 09/21/2011   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
finches, I think they are the same stamp and the difference we are seeing is just reflection on the mounting it appears to be in. Notice the offending writing on the selvedge also looks lighter on the left than it does on the right.
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Posted 09/22/2011   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another example of what Rod222 is talking about, along with some pencilled handwriting that does NOT belong there:



You certainly wouldn't want to tear this off!
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Posted 09/22/2011   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SueStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone who replied.
I value all opinions.
The stamps are a pair, the same, duplicate.
I have them inside a clear plastic sleeve, so the glare made them look sort of different.

Thanks again!
SueStamps
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Posted 09/22/2011   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 2 pesos worth...
I think that writing on the slevage of a stamp is in poor taste. In this case, it is NOT a place number or plate block pair, so I would think the value would be minimally affected. The same sort of thing occures on Postal Stationery ALL the time. Someone writs all the data on the FRONT of the item! The good part is that they usually use pencil (which is erasable). I have been told that dealers write on stamps a lot, as they put things in binders, and it saves them the time of turning items over to see what they are.
Again it is a bad practice, but a lot of the older material came that way when it was passed down to the next collector.
Nice stamps however. I wouldn't worry about the price difference on these.
Bob
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