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Quiz time. Looking at the stamp below, taking into consideration the margins, color, impression, cancel date, etc., would you consider this to be a legitimate R3b? If so, why? If no, why not?  |
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I'm not a student of revenues, but from what I can see in the Scott specialized catalogue, this stamp looks authentic. However, I would guess that the date on the manuscript may tell another story, but what that is, I cannot say.
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Bedrock Of The Community
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I would agree with Rileysan (I'm not a student of revenues, either). Curiously, although it has nothing to do with the stamp, the date of the manuscript cancel is November 19, 1863, which is the same date as Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. |
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margins...Good
color...on my screen looks a little dark. But could also be age.
impression...Looks a little worn. But still plausable
cancel date...Good, but I would expect it to be a little earlier than Nov. (could have been sitting in someone's desk.)
What type of paper? |
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There is something strange in the texture of the inking. I am going to say not legitimate but based mostly on a hunch that the impression on the paper just doesn't look right for a 150+ yr old stamp. |
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"The 1st lot of stamps of any value or title delivered to the Government by the contractors was on Sept 27, 1862, and consisted of 1 cent and 2 cent Proprietary stamps." "The first paper used was a very hard, brittle, and close grained wove paper."
(The Boston Book, 1899)
Your copy dated Nov 19, 1862 is a very early date or was back dated.
The only thing I see that might be invalid are the perforations. Could it be that one side is reperfered in as they don't line up?
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Art,
I think you misread the cancel date. It's 1863, not 1862. Even if it were 1862, this wouldn't be considered too early. I have 1st issue revenues on document as early as the first week of October 1862.
Nothing wrong with the texture or ink.
I'll keep the question open a while longer... |
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After now looking at it with full attention I would have to say FAKE! a nice stamp but still a fake. The answer can be found in the top left corner margin. |
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The answer can be found in the top left corner margin. Elaborate please. |
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Bedrock Of The Community
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Perhaps evidence of a tear/repair (red highlight)? Or a perforation that doesn't quite seem to match the opposite side (yellow highlights)?  |
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| Edited by wt1 - 10/07/2011 9:37 pm |
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Is that a silk strand rather than evidence of a tear? |
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Is that a silk strand rather than evidence of a tear? It cannot be a silk strand on a revenue that early. The silk paper was not introduced until 1870. At any rate, keep going folks. It's interesting to see people's opinions. :) |
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It cannot be a silk strand on a revenue that early. The silk paper was not introduced until 1870.
That sure looks like a silk thread in the top left making it a R3d. Correct in that they were not issues untill 1870. But that does not mean it was not back dated. Perf's also don't match up. they appear to be off by about .5mm This is why I wouldnt't buy a stamp like that without it in my hands for examination |
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Posted 10/07/2011 12:13 am
