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Information & Opinions On US Postal Card Cutouts

 
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Posted 10/12/2011   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add skilo54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi folks,

I hope you are all well, and the collection is looking as wonderful as ever! Have a look below please!





I have a bunch of these cutouts, and am having a hard time finding ones in my catalogue that look exactly like the ones I have. I would really appreciate some information on these and wonder if the lot of them would be worthwhile popping on ebay, or are they bin-fodder? I realize the ones I have been able to find in the Scott Catalogue give the CV for the entire card, and am also wondering how much of the listed price one could expect for them? Some are not cancelled, others have very nice clear strikes.

I have been shuffling this little box around my desk for far too long and would like to set them free from 'The Mothership'

I look forward to any and all feedback, opinions, observations, and appreciate your time, Thanks!

Have a Good One,

Skilo54

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United States
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Posted 10/12/2011   02:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Postal Card cuts are not meant to be collected in that form. The entire postal card is what is needed for the item to be "collectible". At least that's what the Scott catalog would tell you and what the United Postal Stationery Society (UPSS) would have you believe, as in this paragraph for the UPSS web site:


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Cut squares trimmed from corners of U. S. envelopes and wrappers may be saved if one is interested only in dies and paper types. Postal cards and foreign postal stationery are never collected as cut squares. Leave at least 5 to 10mm margin around the stamp design.


All monetary value aside, the postal card cuts (and I have many of them, too) do make for an interesting collection, especially the older ones with clear postmarks. Will they ever be worth anything? Probably not anything near the values placed on the entire postal card. But that doesn't mean there aren't collectors who would like to have them.

As has been said many times in stamp collecting, collect what you like; there are no rules. What may be right for one collector may be undesirable for another, but it does open up new collecting possibilities that make the hobby fun!
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Edited by wt1 - 10/12/2011 02:07 am
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Posted 10/12/2011   02:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for you thoughtful reply wt1, I appreciate it!

With my growing interest in GB KGV I find myself wanting to wave my magic wand and turn these into some new things for my own collection. I am glad to here there are collectors of these out there, and I hope to make these available in the next while either through a sale here on SCF, or possibly ebay. I have spread them all out at one time and remember being impressed with the selection of postmarks. I love finding KGV items with complete strikes, and hopefully someone will have a blast looking through these!

Thanks for having a look, I appreciate it!

Have a Good One,

Skilo54
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Posted 10/12/2011   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with wt1.

In the four you posted in the first picture, the Geo. Washington reply card on the far right can only be identified if the instruction bar is showing so don't cut off the part that says "address".

Of greatest interest would be postmarks of DPOs (dead post offices, no longer in operation) and machine cancels, if entire.
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Posted 10/12/2011   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A little fuzzy because I tried to blow up and crop the image previously posted, but what's with this UX24 cut? Looks like a strange sort of cancellation?

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Posted 10/12/2011   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some worn and broken killer bars.
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Posted 10/12/2011   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love that Martha Washington one and the one posted above. What would you want for something like that?
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Posted 10/12/2011   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey brother,

I'll send ya the whole box of them if you want! Consider them yours, from one deadhead to another! I'll check into postage and shoot you an email in the next day or two. Saves me trying to list them on ebay!

Maybe once you have grabbed the ones you like, send them on down the road to the next cat!

Looks like there are plenty to go around!

Talk to you in a bit,

Skilo54
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Posted 10/12/2011   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I love that Martha Washington one


Actually the cutout depicting Martha Washington is not a Postal Card but a Postal Reply Card. The main part of the card contained the image of George Washington (as per the last image of the scan) and Martha Washington appeared on the reply portion of the card.

This example is the very reason why most collectors demand that the cards be collected as "entires" and not "cutouts". According to the Scott Catalog the Martha Washington portion of the Postal Reply Card could either be a UY6r or a UY7m, the difference being that the card either contains a double frame line around instructions (UY6r) or a single frame line around instructions (UY7m). As a cut out, though, no one will never know with 100% certainty which variety it really is.
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Posted 10/12/2011   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow thanks skilo! You certainly don't need to send me all that stuff, although I must admit that browsing through them would be a treat! A few I have never seen before and they may persuade me to purchase the whole cards down the line when I'm better set for cash! Keep in touch too!
I just sent rod222 some good live performances recently! (Rick Danko and friends)
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Posted 10/12/2011   5:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, the 1 cent McKinley is the Doane killer without the city/state dial.

Edit: it is a type 3.
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Edited by Russ - 10/12/2011 6:07 pm
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Posted 10/12/2011   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, good eye wt1.
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Posted 10/12/2011   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For anyone interested in more info. on the Doane killer cancel, I found this website interesting. (But it's yet another reason why the entire postal card would have been worth saving and not just the corner cut, as we can never know what location the cancel originated from.)

http://www.doanecancel.com/doane.html
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Edited by wt1 - 10/12/2011 6:31 pm
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