German States : Hanover : Forgery.

King George V

10 groschen olive-green

1st March 1861
Typographed : Senator Culemann Hanover.
New Currency
Rose Gum
No watermark
Imperf

Since no one else has commented, I will! 1) Great stamp! I don't think I have any of the 10G variety, only 1s and 2s and 2) Is this the British King George V, or another? If he is British, what was the relationship between England and Hannover?

This is King George V of Hanover, grandson of King George III of the UK (and of Hanover).

His father became King of Hanover when Queen Victoria ascended the British throne because the Salic law in Hanover didn't permit her as a woman to inherit the Hanoverian throne.

Thus, my confusion. Thank you!

George I Great Elector (ruler) of Hannover, Northern Germany, became king of Britain early XVIII centuty, at the death of Queen Ann. So the protestant branch of the Stuart House became extinct. Not so the catholic Stuarts, who claimed the Bristish throne for a while: The Old Pretender, Bonnie Prince Charles and so on...

Thanks for comments, guys,
I must admit, I am a bit rusty on that history.

I am surprised, given the name on the stamps,
that English dropped an "N" in Hanover.

I was expecting someone to scream "forgery"
especially at GBP500, I expect is so, of course.

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rulers of england

1660 - Stuarts Restored

Charles II (1660-1685)
James II (1685-1688)

1688 - The Bloodless Revolution (or The Glorious Revolution)

William (of Orange) and Mary (1689-1702)
Anne (1702-1714)


Hanovers (George I-Victoria) (1714-1901)

George I (1714-1727)
George II (1727-1760)
George III (1760-1820)
George IV (1820-1830)
William IV (1830-1837)
Victoria (1837-1901)


Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (Edward VII) (1901-1910)
Edward VII (1901-1910)



Windsors (George V-Elizabeth II)
In 1917 George V changed the name Wettin, the family name of Prince Albert, to Windsor

George V (1910-1936)
Edward VIII (1936)
George VI (1936-1952)
Elizabeth II (1952- )

The day ain't over yet!

If noone has given a satisfactory answer, I will look it up in my club's library this Saturday. We have the complete German Philatelic Society series on German states forgeries.

Forgery or not, still an interesting item!

Thanks Guys,
what a supportive community :)

Ahh! The imfamous Mi. 18 this is possibly the most highly forged stamp of the German States!

Not a Sperati forgery nor a Fournier
But a forgery none the less. Tip off the Original has no frame line.
But, keep going Rod I'm rooting for you to find one that is an original!

Rod, you've given me an idea for a new thread, hope it hasn't been done yet.

If the cancel is genuine. that is to say, if this stamp was postally used, it may well be worth more than the genuine article.

'Falschungen zum Schaden der Post,' as they put it in the Michel catalogue, are often worth thousands of Euros.

Unfortunately, my Michel Specialised does not give a 'Falschungen zum Schaden der Post' listing for this stamp.

Forgeries aimed at collectors are, of course, an entirely different matter and in such cases the cancel is the crucial factor.

Actually this is quite true! Many Postal forgeries are worth quite a bit!

Great stories, love them all. Real or not!

These threads on German states have revived my interest in my German stamps even given the forgeries. For Scott followers - am I right in thinking this is Hanover Scott#24. Interestingly, my old Scott catalogue makes no mention of forgeries in the Hanover category. I also lived for a time near Hanover, Ontario, Canada.