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Posted 11/22/2011   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is the stamp (in the middle ) between two 65's
Ideas? Opinions?

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Posted 11/22/2011   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not my area by a long shot but always read that to be true pink it needs that bluish/ violet tinge and the blue cancel would tend to enhance that . The couple I have that I believe to be in that shade also have a blue cancel so I'm hesitant .
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Posted 11/23/2011   01:06 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have 6- 64b's (all Weiss ID, 1-cert) and it doesn't look like it to me........Ray
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Posted 11/23/2011   05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kind of a gamble for $32.00, but not too steep if it turns out. I'd hate to pay $32 for a #65.
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Posted 11/23/2011   09:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The dealer will take it back if it isn't what he says it is.

the scan is from his ebay site. I don't have it yet.
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Posted 11/23/2011   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The two on the right appear to color blind me to be the same color.
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Posted 11/23/2011   9:23 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the stamp has a snowball's chance of being any of the 64's. Don't you have a 64b that Bill certified? I will try to post an image of a "65" I bought the other day. I was intrigued by the color and I don't think it is a 65 but one of the other better colors. I must admit I don't know what the "deep pinkish rose" looks like so my stamp could be that.
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Posted 11/23/2011   9:49 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't remember how to put a photobucket image in my post....
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Posted 11/23/2011   9:58 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How about this. Yes, the stamp is a little rough but it didn't cost me much.



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Posted 11/23/2011   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some simple things to remember:
1 - Pink was the first shade printed. They weren't happy with the color, so they darkened the ink blend. The best pinks will therefore be from a time close to August/September/October 1861. Anything later than that would not likely be pink. (note that this is a similar rule to trying to find a Scott 10 vs. a Scott 11 - anything later than 1851 would not likely make the grade.
2 - Scans are useless to judge color shade
3 - The odds are that any stamp will be the cheaper variety. In the case of 64/65, the odds are 17,820 to 1. (Brookman estimates that there were 100,000 Scott 64s and 1,782,000,000 (yes, that's almost 1.8 Billion 65s)
4 - If you think it's a rarer shade, have it certified PRIOR to buying it. You're better off offering the person selling it twice what they want if they'll get the cert. Bill Weiss is relatively inexpensive - your savings on one bad cert will more than make up for the cost.
5 - Rather than looking for shades (that you can't tell from krappy ebay scans), a better thing to do if you want to go treasure hunting is to learn about the varieties of the 1c 1851 and 57 issues. If you plate those stamps, you can find the better varieties.


Hope that this helps.
By the way, this cover has a certified pink on it (that GLOWS pink in person). You can see how hard it is to tell shades from a scan.



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Posted 11/24/2011   08:08 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like great advice to me.
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Posted 11/24/2011   08:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chipg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here's a scan of the stamps. Still hard to tell. And this is a Mid-September 1861 dated cover.
C.

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Posted 11/24/2011   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheSeal619 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Daryl!
Looking at your scans and trying to judge color is anything but easy. However, all three of yours look to 65's, the center one looks to trend to the pink shade, but it is not a true pink. The easiest way to tell a true pink form all the other shades is a true pink almost always has a muddy (not clean) impression.

chipg!
Very nice cover and 64.

sinclair2010!
The scan you are showing has a very good chance of being a pink. As best as can be told form scans the color looks right and so does the impression.

As a side note you may wish to look up the threads I post here with scans of certified 64, 64a (lavender pink and carmine pink sades), and 64b.
Ron
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