Sunday And Christmas Day Cancels Question

Hello, Guys

I have a few questions I wanted to ask about Sunday Cancels and a Christmas day cover.

My First question is about the Sunday covers



I've seen a lot of these and wondered how they were canceled on a Sunday. The guy says
"You could ONLY get these large circular day date cancels from the Postal Service Headquarters in Kansas City on these dates."

Is this true and if so could someone explain how the process works.

Also this Christmas Day cover



Does it follow the same thing as the Sunday cover that where is a place that you can get it stamped any day.

I'd just like to know if there fake or if there is a really a way for these to made you know.

Thank you guys for your time and help.

he is wrong.
The post office will cancel special covers on a sunday for certain events.
the first one was probably favor cancelled.
I got a FDC of my son's birth, (on a sunday) the following monday, had the post mistress back date them for me.
That is called a favor cancel.

Here's another example of an upcoming Sunday cancel that's available for January 1, 2012. I actually ordered a couple of these for my pictorial cancel collection. You can order them too at the address shown, if desired:

Hello,

Thanks for the replies. So I think I understand now. Lets say Monday the 26th I go in to the post office and ask them to stamp my Christmas cover the 25th they would.
I way the gentleman I talked to kind of made it sound like the covers were ordered online from the post office with that days date. He told me
"Kansas City is the USPS Stamp Fulfilment Services headquarters which includes all stamp purchases and first day and event cancellation requests."
So I took it as I go to USPS.com and I can order a cover stamped with that days date. Makes senses now.

Thanks guys.

I don't think your summary is quite right.

I believe there is a strict prohibition against predating any postmark by the US Post Office. (That is, if you were to present a cover at a local post office to be postmarked on a previous date.) There are serious ramifications involved for such action, as for one example, non-philatelic customers could use it to "prove" a tax payment was mailed earlier than it actually was.

Postmarks for philatelic use may be another matter. For example, SFS does make provision to allow people to purchase stamps at their local post office and send them in for a first day cancellation, typically up to 60 days after the date of issue. Similar provision is made for special pictorial cancellations. However, that is the exception rather than the rule, as it would not be in keeping with local post offices to allow that sort of practice. That is why I believe any such requests would have to be of a philatelic nature and fulfilled by SFS, not by a local US Post Office.

Hey, wt1

I understand what you're saying 100% so I guess I'm back to my main question then, How could a event cover be stamped on a Sunday or a Holiday.

Thanks

By special arrangement with the post office for a particular event or commemoration. I am not aware of all of the parameters that must be met for it, but there is are pages upon pages of USPS policies and procedures that must be followed for such things.

Two items that may be pertinent to your question are provided.

First, here's the USPS policy on backdating postmarks:



Second, here's a brochure on the application for a pictorial postmark and how it is set up to commemorate a special event:

http://about.usps.com/publications/pub186.pdf