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Posted 01/04/2012   03:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mrmagic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Guys I havent seen any topic about underprints so I thought I start one. I will post an image of one that I have. As soon as i'am able.
So in the meanwhile if you have any interesting underprints why not show them on the community

I think that this could be an interesting topic to talk about.
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Australia
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Posted 01/04/2012   04:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes they are quite rare,
I have a Tattersalls underprint on KG5 issues
this is still not solved.

IIRC There were only two companies that GB allowed
to underprint their stamps under the gum, W H Everett?
I cannot recall the name right now.
Of course the NZ adverts.

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United Kingdom
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Posted 01/04/2012   05:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi MrMagic.
I have mentioned some Machin underprints if you are interested - https://goscf.com/t/10785&whichpage=7#112690
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Australia
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Posted 01/04/2012   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you are not already aware of this site, you may find it of interest:

http://www.underprints.com/
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Sweden
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Posted 01/04/2012   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mrmagic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link 22 crows.
No I was not aware at all of the site. I just happened to see one of my stamps had an underprint and I didn't knew what it was. ( If I remember correctly it was a spanish stamp with both a perfin and a underprint in the back ). It is now tucked away. And at the current moment I cannot take any pictures what so ever. I will post a picture of it later..
Could it be this one rod ? wattses. ( Not my stamp on the picture thou, the name kinda resembles of W H everett )

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Australia
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Posted 01/04/2012   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peterethio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please excuse my ignorance, but an underprint seems to be something printed on the stamp on the back but under the gum. Is that correct?

I believe that there is a South American country that did this. Not sure which one. I thought it was Ecuador but I looked and couldn't find them.
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Australia
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Posted 01/04/2012   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wattses it is, Mr Magic Bravo!
I had not seen it before today.





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Edited by rod222 - 01/04/2012 5:01 pm
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Posted 01/10/2012   05:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peterethio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I believe that there is a South American country that did this. Not sure which one. I thought it was Ecuador but I looked and couldn't find them


Found them.

There from Nicaragua.

The scan is only of the reverse. My scanner doesn't do back to back



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Posted 01/10/2012   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. I am never going to actually mess with my stamps again because I keep finding things on here I never knew and then have to go and look up more information. Underprints? I had never heard of these before now. I even have one (somewhere) but I just thought it was an error of some sort. I know time is the only way to learn and studying, but there is so much knowledge on this site it really makes me feel like I started collecting this morning. I am learning though so I appreciate all the threads and posts and links. Now I want to see if I can find this stamp....
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Posted 01/10/2012   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peterethio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I keep finding things on here I never knew ... there is so much knowledge on this site


I couldn't agree more! There are also tons of helpful people here who will take an interest in helping you with problems.

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Canada
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Posted 01/10/2012   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In case you have not seen these mrmagic, the Latvia stamps are the actual underprints as they were printed on the back of old maps:

https://goscf.com/t/17523#17523
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Posted 01/10/2012   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hong Kong is another underprinter for Commercial issues.

There are 2 types of underprints:
1) Pre-gum, is when the underprint is applied before the application of gum.
2) Post-gum, is when the underprint is applied over the gum, these can only be found in unused condition.
Used copies the gum will be destroyed!
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Edited by warrehouse - 01/10/2012 9:09 pm
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Posted 01/12/2012   05:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

This was amongst a gift lot from Dianne,
Underprint?
Is it? nah! could be? well maybe.......

see what you think.
It cannot see it being the result of a spray on
as it has a CDS at front



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