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Posted 01/13/2012   07:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add beshergh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
how much is this stamps ?!!




thanks
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Posted 01/13/2012   08:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Beshergh I think this may be the Scott 173 for Great Britian. Should have a watermark. I'm guessing this number as I do not see a dot above the middle of the top frame which would be 179: I could just be missing it though. The first is CV 190.00 used and the other is 75.00. These are 2006 prices. Someone else who knows more will be by soon. You can also tell by measuring how high the stamp is: the 173 should be 22mm high while the other is 22 and 3/4 mm high.
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Posted 01/13/2012   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joe1225us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course, the missing top right cornnor will definitly reduce the value.
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder why the "perfin"? I do think your right though on your Identification though. I'm not a W.W. (World Wide)collector but some you just get familiar with because of their popularity. Other than needing a quick dip and a pressing it looks good! The centering looks good and I believe it's probably a margin copy or something similar because of the "jumbo" right hand margin because the other 3 look spot on so I don't know how theses were issued. I have recently seen a souvenir sheet with a modern re-print of this famous stamp which I'm sure this isn't. Good luck!
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was also wondering about the perfins. I just started making a new hole/ collection of us perfins and I have no ideas about them yet so lots of learning to do on that side of things as well.
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice stamp beshergh, but I am just admiring, not knowledgeable enough to price it out.
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great Britain is currently selling way below catalogue (except for premium stuff, perhaps).

As for this example, I'm looking at it on a tiny screen, so I can't comment on the i.d. The top right corner, bottom row of perfs, perfin, and relatively heavy cancel would diminish the retail value.

It is fine for filling a space until a better example comes along, though.
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Cjd. I should have added that to my answer about condiotion being everything for pricing. Although I would not have known about the trends of price increases or decreases. Again a learning opprotunity.
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do we mean "Why the Perfin"? When the stamp was issued it wsn't rare, so some company put a perfin on it. A lot of "rare" (and I use the term loosley) stamps have perfin patterns on them. In the past a perfin reduced the value of a stamp as making it undesireable and reduced the stamp to a space filler status. Today, a vast majority of people will charge full catalog for a "perfinned" stamp (even though the perfin may be a very common pattern), and some ven charge a premium for a perfin (regardless of pattern). Times they are a changing (I guess).If someone doesn't ID the perfin by this evening I will look it up for you.
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Posted 01/13/2012   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello postat4evr. Personally I was wondering who/ what it represented as the few I have are in the shapes of letters. I for one look forward to the identification.
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Posted 01/13/2012   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Put scans up of the other perfins and I will ID those for you as well (when I get home or someone else will do it before me). Perfins are patterns made up of letters or figures or combinations of both. There are minute differences
even if to the untrained eye they look the same (size, number of dots making it up, etc).
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Posted 01/13/2012   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joe1225us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Today, a vast majority of people will charge full catalog for a "perfinned" stamp (even though the perfin may be a very common pattern), and some ven charge a premium for a perfin (regardless of pattern)."

Are you claiming that Perfins DON'T diminish the value of a stamp? If so, a lot has changed in the 20 years since I collected
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Posted 01/13/2012   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That seems to be the current thinking. I have seen US high value catalog stamps going for FULL catalog. Some people (those in the Perfin hobby for years) are actually charging for perfin value, not stamp value. Be VERY careful on ebay with these. But, in another topic on SCF they were talking about paying for a stamp if you really want it, so I guess supply and demand could be working.

One of the pricing problem result when a perfin or stamp may be worth a bit.

Example. Lets say you have a US stamp that catalogs for $50.00, and it has a common "F" rated perfin on it. Lets go further and say the Perfin has been multiple punched. WHat is the stamp worth? As a perfin it may be worth 5 cents. As a stamp it may be worth say 1/2 cat or $25.00. A lot of people charge $40.00 for this damaged stamp. A lot of people charge 25 cents for it because it is a common item. Some go full price plus (because it has a perfibn on it)

Foreign material is no different. High value stamp, perfin pattern, charge high prices.

Conversly, low value stamps with rare perfin patterns.. equal
higher than catalog for the particular issue.

What about US "A" rated regular issue perfins, that are "F" rated on revenues (and visa versa)? I have seen people charging "A" prices for a F rated perfin on revenues, because they don't know there is a difference.

To answer your post, there is a lot of confusion about old practices on this subject. Today, since perfins are becoming more popular and the source has stopped producing them, I would say generally "Yes" to your question.

If you want/need more chatter let me know.

I have been in the perfin pricing game for 15 years now, so
my opinions are based on this experience.
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Posted 01/13/2012   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Being an stamp with a missing corner and and least four short perfs. and an ugly postmark, I won't pay a single penny for it. For me is not even a space-filler.
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Posted 01/13/2012   3:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp is an earlier version of my 1934 one. Yours dates from around 1913-19. The quality is not so good though and, as stated by others, quality means a lot. Your stamp is of interest to perfin collectors I suspect so worth keeping for research. My stamp is of slightly better quality but far for perfect. I was taught that to get a value of a stamp... divide the SG cat value by eight if it is for a good stamp.
At a guess I'd say your stamp is worth less than a UK pound.

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Posted 01/13/2012   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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how much is this stamps ?!


On a good day, 0. When it comes to the Seahorses throw away the Catalog as it is way over valued. Only the MNH ones carry value and used ones can be had for a Dollar or two but they would be in better shape than the one posted.
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