GB Postal Stationery, Used And Unused. Help Required

I seem to be busy searching so many things these past three weeks, the collection of items before me is bewildering, not in size but in variety.
So many questions and not enough time to ask them.
Today is the turn of Postal History and at this moment, Postal Stationery.
A number of used and unused items which if someone is willing, and they have the catalogues, can look up a value for me...maybe even a catalogue number if there is one.

Here is a selection, there are a few more but it's a start. All are Registered envelopes.

































Here are two that are neither used nor unused !



Thanks for looking.

Londonbus1

I can't help with catalogue info, but I can say that there is some nice eye candy there.

LB1,

I have a copy of "Collect British Postal Stationery" by Huggins & Baker 2007, which is, I believe, the standard reference work for this material.

But, truth be told, I am really not totally sure how to read the volume, so I can only try my best.

1. The first registered letter, appears to be Format RF6. Its QV. Would need to know the size of the envelop if I were to ID further.

I assume the next image is the back of the first?

2. The KGVI with 2 embossed images: The embossing of the 5½d. is R13. The 1d embossing is 43 and the envelop is Format RF15. The whole thing is listed as RP67 "1949 5½d brown + 1d red stamps R13 + 43 envelope RP66 McCorquodole imprint Size g" Lists at £10 mint unused.


Michael,

Its getting late here and maybe if useful I will try this in the morning. Are you interested in the catalog ID or values or both?

best,

Larry

Michael,

1. The 3d KGVI looks like a Forces item. Envelop is Format FRF1 embossing is FR2 cataloged as RPF4. Not priced.

2. The 1/9 QEII item looks like envelop format RF19.The 3d extra is LRE2. I think the embossed stamp is R20 total package might be RP83, size F listed at £5 usused

3. The QV item looks like envelop format RF8, can't read the deonimtation but the embossing looks like R4. Need the size of the envople to price but listed as item RP23

4. The first KEVII looks like format RF9a, embossing is R5, additional orange stamp is 33, need to know if white or buff paper to further ID and price. But size F is either $12.50 or £7.50 unused.

5. The first two KGV items are Format RF10b with the F and RF10a without the F.embossing is R11 both list at £7.50 unused. dates from 1922 or 1923

I'll try more later,

Larry

Larry,

You are a star! I'll take down all the info after work. Thanks very much for taking the time to check those up for me.

What a great forum this is !



Londonbus1

Michael,

Continuing form the third in the group of 6 registered envelops.

1.The 4d KGV could be Format RF9a (letterpress) or RF9b (litho) the embossed stamp is R9.The value heavily depends on the type of flap and size. example size F flap 6 RFpa is £75.00 but flap 7 is £7.50

2. Thats KEVII? 3d. Looks like format RF8 with R5. Size F (look under the flap) is £4.00 unused.

3. The KGV 3d. Looks like same format as above either RF9a or RF9b. embossed stamp is either R6 ("W" under the head) or R7.Value of size F with the "w" is £15.00 and without the "w" is either £5 (flap 6) or £30 (flap 7) or £20 (flap 6 with RF9b)

4. The KEVII is same above?

5. KGVI. Envelop looks like format RF13c. embossed R13 (5½d?), need to know imprint of printer to value. Some imprints like Emerson Make increases value drmatically (£250), if an ordinary McCorquodale envelope, value is £15.

6. KGV envelope is either RP9a or PR9b. the 1d added is "30" and the embossed stamp is R7.Value depnds on size but size F is £15 and size G is £15 for RF9a and £25 for RF9b

7. The next KGV looks like some envelop format but different embossed stamps. the 3½d is R8 and the ½d(?) is "29", size F is £20, size G, flap 6 is £40 and flap 7 is £15. envelop dates from 1920 btw.The flap looks like 7 to me, btw.

8.The envelop with QV stamps, is format RF6.embossed stamp on the other side is R3, I think as hard to read. vlue depends on size and number of floets but probably £15 or £7.50 used.

9.KGVI. Can't tell the ectual envelop format with the R stamp in the way.

10. QV Format RF6, embossed stamp is R3. hard to further id since flap is obscrued by the seals.

11. KGV. The sticker is in the way but I'd guess is RF10a or b (key is whether the size letter is in the box under the sticker) embossed is R11. value is less than£10 for size F or G.

Thats it for now and do more later.

Larry

(by the way, be really cautious with my IDing as I am not really familiar with the material and there are lots of little subtlites that may elude me)

I miss you, Londonbus1. My Se-tenant thread is lonely for your comments but I do understand. Sorry that I have no knowledge of what you are looking for. It looks like you are enjoying what you are doing.....

Take care

Fifia

Michael,

Continuing from the KEVII addressed to Brussels-

1. KEVII with stamps upgrading...Format RF9a with R5. Need size but Size F is valued at £5

2. QV addressed to Belgium.either RF6 or RF7 depends on the flap.

3. KGV address to Germany...doesn't match anything I see in the catalog. (The instruction " the address must be written on this side" is on one line and none of those I see are on one line.) But, could this be KEVII? Hard for me to tell. If KEVII then format RF8 but can't see the mbosses value, looks KEVII type but value deson't appear in catalog.

4. KGVI to Volkart Bros in London... the sticker blocks what I need to see which is the position of the size letter in the box on the upper left. That is GVI isn't it?

5. KGV. looks like Format RF9a (letterpress) of RF9b (litho) with embossed "30" added plus stamp.Look for a "w" below the head. My guess, from the flap, is that this is flap 7, and size F is £20 and size G is £15. But don't see a postmark btw.

6. Last one...KGV Either PF9a7b flap is style 7, unused £7.50, used £5 for sizes F or G.

Thats it. But pls be forewarned I don't know what I'm doing and probably made some mistakes. If you are going to get serious into postal stationery, then Huggins & Baker is the book to get, was publiseh by the GBPS anf the Postal Stationery Society in 2007.

My sense is that postal stationery can make Machins look easy.

Best as always and happy to help out if further need.

Larry

I miss you too fifia.....but I'll be back with other stuff shortly. Just trying to clear my desk a bit and get organized before selling this collection.

I do check in though and look at your great postings !
Keep up the good work.

Larry,

You are more than a gem. You are amazing. I'll be catching up on all this info after my bean soup. !

Londonbus1

Btw, LB, any chance you be up at Stampex next month?

I'm going over to my first trip to it.

-Larry

(if you need blanks filled in on the stationery, just drop me a note, I might need a scan of the rear in a few cases, though)

Sadly not, it would have been great to meet you. Just got back from the UK where I spent Christmas. Next trip will most likely be in the autumn......for Stampex !! We missed each other by one show !

One day I hope.
Checking the PS shortly.
Thanks again

Londonbus1

Larry,

Some comments and new findings.

I will number each one as you did.

1]. Size 11½in x 6in. Yes, the 2nd image is reverse side.
2]. Appears correct description

1]. Correct description
2]. Correct again !
3]. Den. Two Pence, Written notation under flap RP20[F]ba
4]. Is KGV not KEVII
5]. RP38 and RP39

1]. RP30. What are the differences in Flap sizes/types?
2]. KEVII RP24
3]. RP28? Flaps sizes again
4]. RP24, Size G [You see, I'm learning !]
5]. McCorquodale
6]. Size G. Letters E.M. under flap [one or two others have letters]
Is the embossing mis-aligned ?
7]. Flaps again....I'm confused on the flaps.
8]. Size 11½x6..large
9]. Under the Reg. Label reads G2. This cover I traced to to a Field Post Office in Aden with cancels also for the main barracks Post Office. This one is my favourite due to the fun I had searching. If I have enough funds to pay the owner my valuations and this is still on my desk, then I'm keeping it ! I have grown attached to a few items...they will only be sold in an emergency !
10]. Those flaps again. Need to know more about flaps. Those flippin' flaps !
11]. Letter 'G' under the sticker.

Great stuff Larry, I've had fun. I'll complete the last list tomorrow.

Londonbus1

Michael,

First a macro comment on flaps. This is a diagram:

You will notice there there isn't much difference between several of them.

1. size 11.5 x 6in is Size K from 1878 until 1967.This one is RF6 with embossed stamp R3, flap, compensation table on the back, no fee paid on front...I make it RP15 Size K, valued at £50 unused

3. Your comment-"3]. Den. Two Pence, Written notation under flap RP20[F]ba" translation:2d blue stamp R4, envelop format RF7, open flap type 4, compensation table, size F. Valued at £4 unused I had said RF8, but I was wrong, its RF7.

4. The one where I was confused between KEVII and KGV. Its KGV. I am not really comfortable in distinquishing between a number of the KGV varieties. There are litho and letter press versions and some I am not sure why one is diffeent other than because if diffeences in fonts, so I am not not sure but I did say RF9b and that is the best match for my eyes. The extra 2d ornage stamps is still "33". I think we are RP31b (flap 7) Dates from 1920.

5. RP38 is valued at $7.50 for size F and RP39 is the same.

1. RP30...falp 6 is only in real big one sizes H&K, and not these. flap 8 size F is £20 but flap 7 is £7.50 All size G is flap 7, btw.

2. RP24 size F is £4 and G is £7.50

3. RP28? no w below head? Size F flpa 6 is £5 and flap 7 is £30

Take me back to my machins

4. RP24 G-£7.50 unused

5. Shame it says McCorquidale...Size F is £15 unusaed and £7.50 used.

I'll be back I need to sort my OCP from my FCP Machins.

-Larry

Thanks once again Larry. Wow! It's not easy is it?
I have only just got up and I'm flappin' exhausted already !

Londonbus1...I'll show more scans later

At the beginning of the week all I wanted to do was get some stuff listed and clear the desk.....just a little.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would be studying FLAPS !

The last one [above] is an insert for the Jubilee envelope.