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Posted 02/24/2012   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add eaglebub7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Came across this scanning my covers and have looked through as much of the other threads and as possible along with Scotts to determine where to place this item, just not sure though, so again, I turn to the knowledgeable community here. The cancel appears to have a date of 12/28/1882. I thought it strange to see the stamp placed in lower left corner. Thanks again for your help







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Posted 02/24/2012   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the 1800's many covers have the Stamp/s on the left side of the cover. 1882 would be a very late usage of that Stamp as it was issued early 1860's. As far as color it is very hard for me to tell but someone with more knowledge should chime in on it.
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Posted 02/24/2012   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sfgoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for posting such a wonderful cover. I enjoyed seeing it. Someone with better eyesight than mine will have to ID the color
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Posted 02/24/2012   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love the handwriting on this cover. Thanks for sharing. I would go with rose on color , evethough it almost shows a pinkish hue, but I am a student learning so hopefully ray.mac and others will chime in on this one.
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Posted 02/25/2012   02:43 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Date looks like 1861 to me and December works as EKU is Aug 17, 1861.
Can never tell these from an online image. Need white light (Ott Lites are really nice for Iding color) and a known stamp to compare it to.

Could be 64b, might not be. Best would be to send it to Bill Weiss for a Certificate or ID only. Hope this helps, Ray
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Posted 02/25/2012   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ray, after reading your comments and comparing to your cover and the date, I do believe the cancel date is Dec 23 1861. Looking at it, I can just make out what looks like the beginning edge of the 6, not an incomplete 8, below is an enlarged copy of complete cancel. I know it is nearly impossible to review color on monitors but when side by side to yours, this appears a but "dirtier" in color. That said, can you let me know best process to send for evaluation. Do I need to or is it best to belong to any associations etc.?

Thanks

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Posted 02/25/2012   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gorgeous patriotic cover you have there! I am very partial to these and must admit to have never seen this particular sachet before? I like the color mis-registration as it kind of hints to the "patriotic fervor" of the period to get these printed en-mass and off to the public for use! I have to concur with ray.mac the CDS does appear to read 1861 and that would make more sense but I can't make out the correct hues in a scan. Thank you for showing us that! I love it.
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Posted 02/25/2012   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Footballphilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am in love with the loopy penmanship on this cover.
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Posted 02/25/2012   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all, I myself love the penmanship on this cover. Wished I would have listened better to the Nun's during school and kept up with cursive rather than printing myself.

ILS, to your point of rushing these out...I have done some reading on the older revenue stamps and found loads of chaos during the period so kind of know what your saying. In the rush to print these, you can see the ink is dramatically overloaded, so much so, there is a fairly good transfer of ink/image from another envelop on the back side.
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Posted 02/26/2012   02:42 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is Bill Weiss's website which will tell you everything you need to know to submit the cover for a cert or I'd only.

The site states has authored several books, one of which is the definitive catalogue of civil war patriotic covers.

Hope this helps. Thanks. Ray
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Posted 02/26/2012   05:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you may have forgotten the link ray.mac?
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Posted 02/27/2012   12:39 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the heads up, Jeff--

Here it is:

http://www.stampexpertizing.com/
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Posted 02/27/2012   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ray!
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