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Posted 04/12/2012   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This stamp is perf 11 and no watermark. The top right berry appears to have a v and not a single dot. The toga lines and top line of the toga are clear and I think it is rotary press BUT I cannot see double lines on the ends of the scroll. So what do people think. I used Micarelli to try and decipher this, but am still stuck. Help anyone and thanks!



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Posted 04/12/2012   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Scott 546 would be 19.5-20mm wide.
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Posted 04/12/2012   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
this is a SC499.
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Posted 04/13/2012   08:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Russ and chasa. Chasa why? What pointed you to a 499? (other than probability)
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Posted 04/13/2012   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
a. the impression of the printing looks like flat plate, not rotary
b. the bottom right scroll is characteristic of type-1
c. unless the scan is faulty, the width of the stamp looks rotary - although the
difference is slight - if you have looked at thousands of these you can
detect the wdith/aspect-ratio of the head portrait to be different on rotaries
Suggestions for identification:
a. always look at the back - flat plate stamps will almost always have specks of ink on the back
from when the sheets were stacked wet before gumming. specks=flat
offsets and rotary will not have specks.
b. compare the design width to known copies of 499 or 546 - that is more reliable than measuring
with a ruler.
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Posted 04/13/2012   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow that's amazing! It is so very fascinating to see this type of knowledge because you can tell it is a very "old hand" and is of almost second nature where it would take me an army of researchers to accomplish the same! Really neat.
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Posted 04/14/2012   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you chasa. Very helpful and complete response. This will make life a little easier with these stamps. Thanks again - Jeff
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Posted 08/25/2012   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The toga rope and button in your scan doesn't look like a typical 499. Looks sharper. Go to www.siegelauctions.com and do a power search. Look at sale 847, lots 4133 and 4134 and sale 839, lot 1678. Use the image magnifer and compare the toga rope/button to your stamp. These are not typical 500s. They are weaker 500s, but still 500s. Don't know how good the color of your scan is to true color; usually 500's are rose. Not saying yours is or isn't a 499 or 500--just though that the toga rope/button look closer to 500 than typical 499s and you might want to take a look some samples of some 500s from Seigels Auctions.
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Posted 08/25/2012   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 597596 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a perforated 10 Washington to me. I can clearly see the vertical white line under the ear as well. Your stamp would need to be perforated 11 to be 499 or 500.

Watermark Scott Number
single-line 425
none 463


Perf 11 below


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Posted 08/25/2012   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
looking at it one more time, maybe it could be SC500.
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Posted 08/26/2012   5:35 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, no way in the world is this stamp a 500. The type 1a used a transfer roll of I think, 10 dies, and used a lot more pressure than was used on the 499's. So the image is much deeper, and much more detail than a Type I.

Here are a couple of 500's. The color is completely different than any other W-F 2c red stamp- deep rose, and look how dark the toga rope is compared to the either of the other 2 examples.

The toga rope on Jeff's example looks more to me like a rotary. I mentioned a couple of days ago in another thread that the 545/546's were notoriously wide and way off center. I posted a 546 in the other thread. The stamp doesn't look wide enough to be a 546, at least at first glance.

My guess is 499, strong impression.

Here are my 500's (I found both of them in a large lot of 2c reds):



Hope this helps, Ray

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