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Pillar Of The Community
Canada
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Posted 04/16/2012   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BlackJag to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know nothing about USA postage and request information on the two Postal Cards shown below.

I've collected only Canadian mint since 1957.

The top card has a cancellation date of December 31st, but the year shows only as "19". The card was to be returned by January 1st, 1910, so the date must be "1909". Either the mail delivery system was fantastic back then, or it would be late assuming that January 1st. was a legal holiday in 1910.

The bottom card is cancelled August 31st, 1923 and, unlike the 1910 card, its reverse was printed upside down compared to its front.

Query - What are their catalogue numbers and current valuations?



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United States
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Posted 04/16/2012   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sonic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can take a stab at it for you.

The first postal card is a UX 19. The earliest known use is June 28, 1907. I don't have a current value, although it is not a high value card. I found several on ebay priced anywhere from .99 to $50.00.

The second card is a ux27, again not a high value card there were tons of these they were used well into the 60s available on ebay for roughly the same price as the first card.

Both are interesting. Hope that helped.
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Bedrock Of The Community
United States
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Posted 04/16/2012   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let's see if I can help.

The top card is a UX19. Used catalog value is $0.50.
The bottom card is a UX27. Used catalog value is $0.25.

The fact that the reverse of the cards may be printed upside down is not really an issue, as these cards were supplied blank and the companies using them proceeded to print whatever they desired on the back (and oftentimes they did inadvertently print them upside down).

As for the postmark on the top card, you are probably right that it's 1909. Those older flag cancellations typically had the year as "19" and "09" separated apart as in this example:



The poorly inked lower right side of the circular part of the postmark would suggest that it simply did not adhere to the postal card. It is interesting that the reverse of the card suggests a January 1st due date, but it also suggests that a discount were available if it were paid before January 10th, so they were probably just sent out late, as the recipient did have time to make a timely payment by January 10th.
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Canada
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Posted 04/16/2012   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to Sonic and wt1 for their very useful information, catalogue numbers and values. I didn't think that they were unusual or valuable, but wanted to know before I give them away at our next stamp club meeting to someone who may treasure them for their USA collection.
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United States
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Posted 04/16/2012   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first (flag) cancel was from American Postal Supply Co. Model B14 with a value of about $5.00. The second was International Postal Supply Co. Model D32 Machine 1 with nominal value.
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Posted 04/19/2012   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah Russ, the cancel master. Way to id them.
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Posted 01/28/2014   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add acanalizo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The UPSS has a great 290 page ePublication United States Postal Catalog that cane be downloaded at
http://www.upss.org/code/epublicati...4fe47e863e86
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Posted 01/28/2014   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was looking through Siegel several days ago and ran across the UX27 item which were quite valuable there. The items that brought money stated they were on rough surface used during WWI. The Scott # for them was UX27C. How would you be able to know the difference?
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Posted 01/28/2014   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I was looking through Siegel several days ago and ran across the UX27 item which were quite valuable there. The items that brought money stated they were on rough surface used during WWI. The Scott # for them was UX27C. How would you be able to know the difference?


A story on the UX27 postal card is at this link:

http://stamps.org/userfiles/file/AP...re_07_11.pdf

Specifically, on page 2 (second paragraph) is reference to the "gray rough surface" emergency paper card stock used on postal cards of 1916-17, which suggests it should be easy to tell apart not only by the paper color but by the crude looking image of Jefferson.

The article goes onto state that they were never sold OTC at post offices but were only available in sheets for commercial use.
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Posted 01/28/2014   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great info in the wt1, thanks for the link!
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