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Bedrock Of The Community
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Posted 07/04/2012   9:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1843 Stampless cover
(courtesy of my friend Zhang Cheng)

Delivered to
The Right Honourable Court of Directors
East India House
Leadenhall Street
London

December 14th 1843

Letter inside missing

Sundry margin markings include
"Cornelius Donovan"
"Claim ? to Burmese Prize Money"

Any ideas on the Postmark?
Has this postmark a specific name?
Is there a reference to "Lime Street"?

Maybe this is an Item for our SCF specialist Eunice Shanahan.
Any observations welcomed.





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Posted 07/04/2012   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps
underneath the "Lime"

The sundry splotches could read...1p PAID ?

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Posted 07/04/2012   11:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
try

LIMEHOUSE,

Okka
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Posted 07/04/2012   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could be Limassol, the second largest city on Cyprus.

Another possibility is Limerick, Ireland.
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Posted 07/05/2012   12:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys,
I am tending Limerick.

No information on Cornelius Donovan,
and I am not considering Scrooge (he lived in Lime street, circa 1843)

However, the margin scribbles suggest a claim for Burmese prize money.
This letter probably contained some sort of legal representation
on behalf of a portion prize from booty (prize) claimed in the Anglo-Burmese
of 1824.
King William 4th gave consent to an ongoing broad claim
as late as 1831 as far as I can see.


(Source 1837 British House of Commons papers)

Interesting as this war was one of the first wars where the Brits
employed rockets.
There was, I think a rocket brigade.
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Posted 07/05/2012   12:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

it is definitely LIMEHOUSE, no if's no buts

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limehouse

It was a major Post Office in London during that period,

Okka
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Posted 07/05/2012   12:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am leaning towards Limehouse myself.
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limehouse

Also a nice pic in 1837 of Leadenhall St in this Wiki entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadenhall_Street

Good one to ask Eunice and Ron (penguin) about. they have one shown from 1817 to Limehouse here:
http://www.victorianweb.org/history...s/clark.html
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Posted 07/05/2012   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The J. T. Whitney Postmark Catalog lists this type for Ireland: "Octagonal or rectangular paid marks, in red, 1814-1846" at around $7 in 1987.
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Posted 07/05/2012   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doug,

check your Whitney for London Local Posts,

LIMEHOUSE 1d. Paid, type 0

Okka
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Posted 07/05/2012   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gentlemen! Bravo,

SCF is the stamp "Time Team"

Yes, I see Limehouse now, fantastic.
Only thing left, is the Hieroglyphics

8mg and
PD over A
I think perhaps PD over A = Postal District A

I have a postmarks catalogue, have to try and find it in the
burgeoning library.....

Many thanks all.
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Posted 07/05/2012   02:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, Type O. What's the "8M8" stand for?
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Posted 07/05/2012   02:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

That's 8 Mg Doug,

Guess...Postage price within 8 miles of the GPO.
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Posted 07/05/2012   04:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doug,

that's not a London Local Post Office marking, it is a London General Post marking and the codes are almost impossible to decipher, 8M8 presumably is a time cancel used on a particular counter,

Okka
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Posted 07/05/2012   04:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, it is not 8M8 it is 8Mg

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Posted 07/05/2012   04:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly the 8M refers to 8 AM and the G to the Post Office counter,

Ebden
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Posted 07/05/2012   06:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I cannot find it possible, in 1843
to have timed postmarks, I feel it has to be something rather more utilitarian.

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