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Posted 07/17/2012   05:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bmn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Please help to US stamps.
This is probably the non-postal?

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Posted 07/17/2012   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are Back Of Book U.S. Internal Revenue stamps and an essay for a private carrier stamp. Interesting stuff.

Carrier stamp (with the Eagle on it) is listed as LO1 but since this is an essay I don't think the numbers are correct

Revenue stamps are
#1. R1c - 1˘ Express- red
#2. R6c - 2˘ Bank Check- orange
#3. R24c - 5˘ Certificate- red
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Posted 07/17/2012   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually that Scott # of LO1 isn't even the same issue I don't believe? Someone will know it's relatively common and thousands of these were reprinted for some reason so I am very unclear on it's number. I apologize and I do believe that the rest are to be correctly I.D.'d.
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Posted 07/17/2012   08:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bmn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I_Love_Stamps
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Posted 07/17/2012   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott's Specialized (I love this book!) has the American Letter Mail Co. listed as 5L1 issued in 1844 in black. The footnote says this stamp has been extensively reprinted in several colours, distinguishable by the rust marks on the plate, which were mostly removed from the margins and gutters betwen stamps but remain within the stamp designs. That's a quote.
Not sure it that means the coloured versions were reprinted by someone else? and are therefore copies, or were later printings by the American Letter Mail Co.
The books also gives background info.
'Lysander Spooner established this independent mail line operating to and from New York, Philadelphia and Boston.'
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Posted 07/17/2012   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bmn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, jamesw
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Posted 07/17/2012   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add klange to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a color reprint from the 1942 APS convention. If I get time later this afternoon I'll fire up the scanner and show all the sheetlet colors from the show. Correct, you can see the rusty plates in the colored version reprints and the clean plates in the originals.

Kurt
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Posted 07/18/2012   01:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bmn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Klange.
It would be interesting to see.
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Posted 07/18/2012   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add klange to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK - a little longer to get to the scanning than I though but here they are.

To start with, this is a genuine page of 20 of the original "5L1" (with a little corner damage but I was still happy to obtain it)"


Then, here are the six colors of the reprint made from the same plates for the 1942 APS convention.












The plates of the above 6 colors along with the proof plate below (printed on a thicker card stock paper) can be easily identified because of the pitting and rust that occurred to them over the years. In particular on the left few columns of the stamps on the plate - more so than the right.

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Posted 07/18/2012   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add klange to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This might help a little, too. These are only 100 dpi (I think I might re-scan them later to clarify) but you should be able to see the difference between the original 1844 version (in black) and the later reprints (orange) which have pitting and plate damage on them, especially on the left side.







They are digitally clipped from the SAME ten plate positions in the middle section of the sheetlet.

Kurt
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Edited by klange - 07/18/2012 4:43 pm
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Wow I love it! I never knew that. Thank you.
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Posted 07/19/2012   01:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bmn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much, Kurt!
Very impressive!
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Posted 07/19/2012   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add klange to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a little more info on these with some better scans. These are higher quality scans and I split them into rows so I didn't have to downgrade the quality to post them.

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row 1 genuine:

row 1 reprint:


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row 2 genuine:

row 2 reprint:


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row 3 genuine:

row 3 reprint:


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row 4 genuine:

row 4 reprint:


I think with these better scans you can see the graininess, pitting, and rusty plates on the reprints that is missing from the originals.
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