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US Postage Due - Colour Opinions Please

 
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Posted 08/05/2012   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jamesw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Spent a lovely day today putting some of my wayward US stamps in the album. These early postage dues are driving me to drink! (ok, so I had a beer or two open anyway!)
The two pictured on the right are both perf 12. Their colours, I believe are deep claret (right) and rose carmine (centre).
The stamp on the left has me dumbfounded. It is perf 10, which would make it a 1914 J53a dull rose or 1916 J60 rose. I've looked and looked and can see no discernible watermark. J53a is wmk 190, while J60 is unwatermarked.
The 1916 stamp is far more valuable, priced at $75 compared to $2 for the 1914 stamp. I know mine is not centred well, so it would be priced below the catalogue of $75. But, for arguments sake, and for the sake of where to put it in the album, I'm asking your opinions about the colour.
I know you can't give me a definitive analysis of colour on the computer, but what are your opinions about the colour of the stamp on the left?
It needs a home.



Your thoughts?

-edited title - my outburst didn't help.
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Posted 08/05/2012   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tefloncinco to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I will be needing your assistance in the topic just starting on the U>S region. info is well received
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Posted 08/05/2012   10:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say the first example is J53a.

If you don't know it already, the postmark on the center stamp is Boston, Mass. with the center "FEN" an abbreviation for Fenway Station (yes, the same name/location as the ballpark) which was only in operation from 1905-1927 (post office discontinued on April 30, 1927), which would almost certainly make it a J62 as that stamp was issued in 1917 which would have been the precise period when that post office "station" was in operation.
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Edited by wt1 - 08/05/2012 10:33 pm
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Posted 08/05/2012   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info on Fenway, wt1. J62 is what I had that stamp pegged at.
I have another postage due postmarked in Pittsburgh which has FILM. in the centre of the oval. Filmore?

Unfortunately, looking at the colour of the image of the left hand stamp on screen and the original in my hand, they are not even close to each other. So this may be an effort in futility.
The actual stamp is lighter and warmer in tone than what I see on my screen. Perhaps the fresh light of day tomorrow will help.
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Posted 08/06/2012   12:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have another postage due postmarked in Pittsburgh which has FILM. in the centre of the oval. Filmore?


It's interesting you brought this up, as not even Jim Forte's Postal History website has information on it. After some research, though, I found that the office was:

Pittsburgh (Film Station), Pennsylvania

It was in existence for only 14 years -- from September 16, 1920 through November 24, 1934, when the post office was officially discontinued.

As I am not familiar with the geography or history of Pittsburgh, I can't provide more specifics but it seems as though it's a long forgotten little piece of Pittsburgh postal history.

Perhaps someone else on SCF can provide more information on it.

By the way, it would be interesting to see a scan of your stamp with that postmark on it.
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Posted 08/06/2012   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again thanks for the info wt1. Here's the postage due (SCJ84a) withe the FILM cancel mentioned above.

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Posted 08/06/2012   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sirruspoe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jamesw, I am no help on the color, but do love the postmarks. Also the middle stamp has an extra "dot" where there should be three I see four on the lower left above the word two about a third of the way up the stamp. Could be an oddity, or a rub on the stamp surface.
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Posted 10/26/2013   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LeanneP to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The perf 10 in the Scotts is one of two things only: the famous "rose", or J52a dull rose from the carmine lake category of perf 10s. My personal guess would be j52a. I have a block of five, and sent a scan to the Swedish Tiger web stamp expert who identified them in miliseconds. Of course, I was hoping for a hefty worth with a block of five 2cent rose stamps, but it was good to know. Best USA stamp website on the 'net, the Swedish Tiger. He's recently added UK. Full expansion on every stamp with current, updated values. Great for organizing an entire collection. He pays for it out of pocket so it wouldn't hurt to fly him the odd donation dollar, but the information on the site is there to use. He goes into some postage due info and special deliveries, etc., but also graciously may do a stamp ID for you, such as he did for me.
Cheers.
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Posted 10/26/2013   4:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It is perf 10, which would make it a 1914 J53a dull rose or 1916 J60 rose. I've looked and looked and can see no discernible watermark. J53a is wmk 190, while J60 is unwatermarked.

NO WATERMARK = J60....sometimes hard to see
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Posted 10/28/2013   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Red, Redder, Reddest ?
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