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What Variety Is This 1853 Three Cents Postal Stationery?

 
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Posted 10/04/2012   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Larryh86GT to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
There appear to be many varieties of the 1853 three cent embossed postal stationery and the prices go from very little to very high numbers. Can someone help determine which variety and a rough value of this for me please.
Thanks.



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Edited by Larryh86GT - 10/04/2012 9:53 pm

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Posted 10/04/2012   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think U9 or U10 (different paper) myself, but I know nothing about these- that's just from looking at the catalog illustrations...



You might also consider adding the words "postal stationery" instead of "embossed stamp" to the title... And also the country of origin (USA)
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Edited by new12collector - 10/04/2012 4:57 pm
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Posted 10/04/2012   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's how to remember:

Postal stationery = Letter

Stationary = NOT MOVING
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Posted 10/04/2012   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that. Fixed it. You know anything about postal stationery?
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Edited by Larryh86GT - 10/04/2012 9:52 pm
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Posted 10/04/2012   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Firstly I have to admit I didn't even know they made postal stationery in 1853! But I've led a sheltered life.
Secondly, I was about to chastise new12 for calling it a U9 or U10, which I was going to say was a blue Ben Franklin. But I then saw that Scott's, in their infinite wisdom, made their Scott number and illustration number, in this section, both start with the letter U. Well done guys!
Therefore, I'd agree with Mr. New12, that this is a U9 or U10 (Scott number) from 1854.

Larry, is this a cut square, or do you have the entire envelope?
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Posted 10/05/2012   08:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have the whole envelope. It was in my father's collection a long time ago.

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Posted 10/05/2012   12:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also didn't realize these went back that far. Very nice full envelope as so many were cut to fit an album . I have probably 100-150 cut squares but never jumped into the differences. Anxious to hear more about this for your sake and to learn.
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Posted 10/05/2012   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My stationery is stationary.
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Posted 10/05/2012   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not helping.
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Posted 10/05/2012   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting- I have a few envelopes to the same person.
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Posted 10/05/2012   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well were no further on ID but thats very strange that New12 would have same adressee on cover from same period I'm assuming? Either very ironic or possibly a VIP - This looks like a job for WT1....
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I vote for U9. There are three different knives that are possible. Could you post a scan of the back and tell us if there are patent lines printed on the bottom flap?
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Posted 10/05/2012   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Well were no further on ID but thats very strange that New12 would have same adressee on cover from same period I'm assuming? Either very ironic or possibly a VIP - This looks like a job for WT1....


It is odd... Does yours have a small green mark on the back w/ the initials "sm"?


Speaking of odd happenings with same addresses...

I am going to bid on some advert. covers on ebay that are to the same adress as some I already own... In fact, given the sellers location I am fairly certain they were cherry picked out of a collection I later ended up buying as a box lot.

I recently bought I postcard from Wisconsin and noticed it is the same addressee as ones I have been buying from a local bookseller...

I have bought covers to my ancestors (locally)

Coincidences... They're everywhere!
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Posted 10/05/2012   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Makes you wonder the vast size of some collections that get torn up by auction houses to squeek every penny only to end up pcs and parts of the next one. Spend all that time and money to get great albums and coutless hours planning and mounting and the second its sale time its all for not- chuck the album sell the good singles and toss the rest in a box for a floor lot.
Larry - Sorry we went off topic somewhat but if you can provide the extra details Thomas or another will ID for sure.
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