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Posted 11/01/2008   8:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i have a 1867 washinton and not sure a bout the grill marks does anyone know how to make an indentification
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Posted 11/01/2008   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi David, Welcome to the forum..i best leave your question to one of the United States collectors..not sure if you mean how to tell if the stamp has a grill or the type of grill..i know this much..if there is a grill you can feel it with your fingers.....
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Posted 11/01/2008   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
this stamp looks totally flat like smooth it was my understanding that these all had different grills
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Posted 11/01/2008   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i got very excited about the sale of the good one and thought I should check and see if I had one
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Posted 11/01/2008   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
not sure what defined each one I have looked up grill info but does not explain verywell
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Posted 11/01/2008   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I see in the scott specialized catalog about the grills of various sizes..you need expert opinion there.....
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Posted 11/01/2008   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks I will get it checked out
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Posted 11/01/2008   9:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
David without seeing the stamp I can't confirm which one you have. However if you can't find a grill it may not be one of the Washington's issued in 1867. DO you know what Scott number you think you have?
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Posted 11/01/2008   9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello David....

Show us front & back pictures.

Not all stamps from that time period had grills.
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Edited by nr-notrare - 11/01/2008 9:51 pm
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Posted 11/01/2008   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

If there is no grill you probably have a Scott #68 10c green Washington (or a Scott #68a 10c dark green),
first issued in 1861.

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Posted 11/01/2008   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just some basic info on grills.

A grill looks like a bunch of dots on the surface of the stamp, formed by pressing a grilling device against stamps. It is similar to a waffle iron in that a pattern of indentations would be left on the sheets. If the grilling is full of indentations, a "female" grill, the grill points would point upward, like they lifted. If the grilling device were made of protrusions, a "male" grill, the grill points would point downward, as though pierced.
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Posted 11/01/2008   11:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome, David.

Grills on U.S. stamps are difficult to identify, and require a bright light, a good glass, and a trained eye. I'd get the stamp in front of an experienced collector or dealer who has experience in such things.

I can help you out, but I'm probably a long way away from you.

David
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Posted 11/02/2008   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it looks just like the one sold at auction in New York
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Posted 11/02/2008   12:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davidsimmonsnm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the three cent washington
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Posted 11/02/2008   01:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That isn't much help because it could be one of several stamps some worth a lot and some worth not that much. There are about 13 different stamps with a redish color and 3 cents. Some are grilled and a couple are not. The price ranges from a few dollars to a coup thousand.

However I must admit I don't follow many auctions so I have no clue on what stamp you are talking about.
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Posted 11/02/2008   01:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok we are talking about the same stamp and the one that sold in New York was a (B) grill of which there are only four known still surviving.
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