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B Grill ??????

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Posted 12/11/2012   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add same to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Dear Friends
 Length of Day tried to know the type of grill , but I could not.





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Posted 12/11/2012   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since there are only 4 copies known in the World, I'd say no it's not a B grill.
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Posted 12/11/2012   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like an E grill: 14 x 17 points. One member here on SCF recommended rubbing graphite on the stamp to more clearly show the grill. You can do that but it is unlikely that you will be able to remove all of the graphite. Any graphite that cannot be cleaned from the stamp will probably reduce its value, especially if that is done to a stamp with a high value.

On this stamp, the graphite helps to clearly show most of the grill but the bottom of the grill is still not clearly seen.

Please post a scan of the face of the stamp.

Same, this is a link to a chart that will help you to identify the grills on US stamps
http://www.1847usa.com/Grills.htm
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Edited by quigngt - 12/11/2012 6:06 pm
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All points will be line up straight in both vertical and horizontal alignment. The horizontal circles at the top center area and in a straight alignment are points except for one which is lower than the other seven. That lower circle may be showing a small break in the paper a little to the right of, and lower than, the center of the point. The six spots circled on the far right and at least four on the top left are probably not grill points.
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Posted 12/11/2012   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Same, is the grill with graphite upside down?
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Posted 12/11/2012   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't it be nice if all grills were well defined. There should be a premium on well defined Grills whether it's a common grill or not. How many people have submitted E grill for Certification only to find out it really is an E grill? And how many stamps with grills do collectors have that don't have positive Identification, simply an "I'm pretty sure it's either X or Y"?


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Posted 12/11/2012   7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is impossible to have this stamp grill type E, because they were issued on 02.12.1868, and postage stamps issued after that date, all F grill.
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Posted 12/11/2012   7:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add same to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This picture of him upside down



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Posted 12/11/2012   11:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can you measure the grill ?
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Looks to me 14 X 17 points 11 X 13mm(Most likely candidate is E grill)
To be a B grill its must be 18 X 13mm and 22 X 18 points
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Dear Friend
 I live alone here in China, and no one helps me to know postage stamp size, now I do not see very well, because of my illness.
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Posted 12/12/2012   08:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gladiators001 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In does times nobody was paying attention to the grills and usualy they replenish stocks of stamps
once they become low and because stamps where same new stock can be put on top of old one,
as result even after manufacturing of specific grill has been ended there is possibility of
them to apear on envelopes at much later dates.
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