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Posted 12/12/2012   12:39 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This past weekend was the first weekend of my Christmas vacation (I hadn't had a chance to use more than 2-3 vacation days all year long, so I have a bunch to burn up). With nothing on the docket, and really feeling in a "philatelic mood" on the spur of the moment I decided to drive up to the ASDA show in Lombard, IL.

I had not been to this venue before (Lindner Conference Center). The drive up was VERY easy, only about 2 hours door to door. Unfortunately it rained nonstop... all day long.

The show had about 15 dealers, many of whom I knew from Chicagopex and Indypex, but there were a couple I had not done business with before. One in particular had a number of nice pieces, so overall the trip was quite worthwhile.

I bought a small revenue collection in a tiny stockbook. The most surprising items in it though, turned out to be rather unexpected. A set of 4 stamps that appear to be locals, but are actually fantasies:




I figured that being fantasies, they would be of nominal value... apparently I was wrong. Check out these results:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEXICO-1861...130779667580

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEXICO-USA-...261117863567

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1865-PHANTH...230868051749

There's gotta be some sort of story around these...

Outside of the the collection the individual keepers from the day are the following:

A nice CDV with a part perforate pair (R1b).




A check with a nice SON cancel from the Keystone Bridge Co.




A check from 1898, from the H.B. Smith Co. of Westfield Mass, manufacturer of boilers, with not only a crisp ornate handstamp, but a nice image of a boiler in the middle of the check.






Lastly, the one piece that made the trip worthehile: A cover with a revenue (R211) illegally used as postage... but not just any cover. A paquebot cover. This cover was sent from the S.S. Arabic, and canceled in Cherbourg-Octeville, in Normandy, France.

The S.S. Arabic was sunk off the cost of Ireland, en route to America, on August 19, 1915 by the German submarine U-24. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Ara...%281902%29), this incident had significant impact on U.S.-German foreign policy and submarine warfare.

The stamp on the cover was first issued in 1914, and the ship was sunk in 1915, but the datestamp doesn't appear to correlate to that period, but I don't know how to read the format.

I've included a closeup of one of the datestamps below the cover. Does anyone know how to read this format?

[UPDATE: Members on another board determined the answer to the cover. It's a different "S.S. Arabic", not the one that immediately comes up in Google. The cover was canceled January 20, 1929.]




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Posted 12/12/2012   01:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 597596 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be; day/year/month/ hour ? Sept. 20th, 1912, 9pm?

Guess not, that would predate the stamp.

Interesting, sender used company envelopes not from area and wrong postage.
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Posted 12/12/2012   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From my somewhat limited experience, I think based on the way French CDS dates (and some other European ones as well) work, this would be: Jan 20, 1929, 7pm.

Usually the month is in Roman numerals, which I think is the "I" here. Also, times are on the 24-hour clock, so 19 H is 7pm.

(Also replied on the SB board, before I saw your post on here.)

-- Dave
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Posted 12/12/2012   02:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
There's gotta be some sort of story around these...


Remember the post a year or more ago on SCF about the infamous dealer in fakes, Samuel Allan Taylor? Well, those McRobish & Co. "stamps" are apparently attributed to him, based on this album page, which also shows a number of other varieties in various colors:

http://www.rfrajola.com/mocks/page24.jpg

Here's the Samuel Allan Taylor link for more information and if you refer to page 2 of that link, there is further confirmation the McRobish & Co. stamps are attributed to him:

https://goscf.com/t/17845
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Posted 12/12/2012   05:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice finds ! I have never seen them before.

I was just thinking how nice it would be if I could get in the car and drive two hours to a Stamp Show !

Such is life.....

Londonbus1
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Posted 12/12/2012   05:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great score revenuecollector! I like that cover as well...a lot! I almost won an illegal usage battleship on cover in a small lot this month but sniped at last few seconds! lo Oh well. Thanks.
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Posted 12/12/2012   05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a pleasant surprise. Nice going
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Posted 12/12/2012   11:02 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Members on another board determined the answer to the cover. It's a different "S.S. Arabic", not the one that immediately comes up in Google. The cover was canceled January 20, 1929.
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Posted 12/12/2012   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revenuecollector, thanks for another great thread about
your most recent acquisitions. Funny I really like reading
about the stuff you buy even though I don't collect any of it.
You are a great story teller and it's fun reading about your trips
and calls from your dealer.
And your scans are usually superb.

Have to tell you though I'm a bit envious of your stamp life.
Well more than a bit.

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Posted 04/14/2013   07:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although the address on the cover says L.I. (Long Island), Richmond Hill is in the borough of Queens; part of NYC.
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