Lincoln #108

Help identifing. Has glue and no apparent grill

Check the paper, is it on white or does it have a slight yellowish tint?

looks white

Made from a proof?

The 108 was printed from the original plates and the only distinction is the paper. 50 impressions (10,000 stamps) were printed of the reissue but only 397 were sold. The remaining stock of 9,603 was destroyed on July 16, 1884.

What does the gum look like?

the glue is all over with cracks in it. I have taken it to a couple dealers and they were unsure. I want to send to pse but it will be so expensive. I have inherited my grandfathers collection. Could have been his fathers too I dont know. I am posting another that he thought was very valuable too. He and others think is a #172.

that's pretty

Wow this and your other post are a couple very nice stamps and hopefully for you the rarities. Please show us more of what you may have . Of course PSE is an option but have you considered Weiss ? His certificates are widely accepted and less expensive. I believe if you spend the $25 and get the Weiss cert and either are what you expect it will be well worth the money. He will also do a scan visual but in both cases you are dealing with color issues be it paper, gum or ink .

This looks very much like a proof that has been perforated; a cert would prove it out one way or the other.

Thank you I will look into.

A 77P2 on india perforated I'm betting. The centering is near perfect and the perforation I'm a bit skeptical on because some look legit but other are near perfect circles and sort of un-even - BUT the "glue" or gum may be right for one of the re-issues so since I no where near knowing enough about these to say for certain a trip to Bill Weiss would be the way to go. Best of luck friend!

the separations (the end of the teeth) look to have been trimmed flat also?

spelling correction and added the bottom thought

I have downloaded forms from Mr.Wiess. Will be sending Monday morning...Its a beautiful stamp.

This is not on India, which is a VERY thin very white paper. It's possible that it has been rebacked, but I think it more likely that it is a shaved down card proof.

mdlock--
#77 and the associated grills (91, 98) are not well centered issues-- I don't know much about the re-issues, but the centering on this one is just so perfect, I doubt it can be a stamp.

I saw on a Siegel auction a couple of months ago where a 77 was finally graded 100 by PSE and there was a long dialogue about it, where they didn't know if they would ever see one.

Also from the picture, the paper doesn't look white, like images of other re-issues I see- or have seen in person. It does look like the 77P4 I have:


It doesn't look like the 108 on the Sweedish Tiger's site
http://www.theswedishtiger.com/x1861d.htm

It doesn't look like the 108's on Siegel's site--none are centered like yours, and the perfs are completely different looking:
http://www.siegelauctions.com/lot_grd.php

Good luck! I hope it's the 108-- that would be way cool. Don't think this one is, though.....Ray

Revcollector I am a proof collector and know my stuff in this arena. I will agree, at least in part, that it doesn't appear india and if it's not it may could also be a trimmed "small die" and perforated after the fact. See the "marbling" in the paper? Well that's a good indicator of india paper HOWEVER, it looks a little too thick in the scan to say for certain. I'm leaning more towards re-issue however. I don't see the blue-ish tinging in the black ink in this either so if it is a proof it could be a color trial but all this would be much speculation without seeing it in hand of course.