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Posted 01/23/2013   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cdnum to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

Do you know more on this stamp perfins... I think it is IR with square around. Internal revenue? Railroad? Company name?



Thank you!

CDNum.
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Posted 01/23/2013   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perfin # R-77 = (RI) Sq, Athens, PA.

The Perfin Catalog does not provide a company name other than "(RI) Sq" with the location of Athens, PA.

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Edited by Hal - 01/23/2013 6:40 pm
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Posted 01/24/2013   04:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Hal!

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Posted 01/25/2013   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I do not have an image, but, can anyone tell me who used the US perfin inscribed RJR with a 'dot' perfin at the middle of the back of the "J" and joining the back of the "R"?? I am guessing that it is a railway company??

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Posted 01/25/2013   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Reynolds? Now/was RJR Nabisco.

Cheers, Robert
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Posted 01/25/2013   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that Trainwreck

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Posted 01/25/2013   7:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
cdnum:
Your pattern is I77.5, IR [square], Ingersoll-Rand Company, Athens, PA. Used between 1926-1938.

Bujutsu:
Your pattern is R97, RJ.R, R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, Winston-Salem, NC perdiod of useage 1912-1978

Hope this helps.
Info: CAtalog of US Perfins, 1998 edition

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Posted 01/25/2013   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always thought this was an Ingersoll-Rand Co. perfin:



Is it just a different variety and/or location for that firm or have I identified the IR/Co perfin incorrectly?
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Posted 01/25/2013   9:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PoStat4evR Thanks for the update.

That makes a lot more sense than "(RI) Sq" shown in the PERFIN CATALOG.
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Posted 01/26/2013   04:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this the catalog to which you was referring?

http://www.perfins.org/publications-for-sale/


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The Perfins Club Catalog Sales Department
David Lightle – Proprietor
10616 Cielo Vista Del Norte NW
Corrales, NM 87048
Perfinpaul@msn.com

Title-World Perfin Catalogue – America's
Schwerdt, Robert. 1992. The World Perfins Catalog. American Section.
Poughkeepsie, NY: The Perfins Club. [91 p.]

Non-Member Price -$ 17.25
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Posted 01/26/2013   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt-1; Your pattern is also a Ingersoll Rand perfin. There are 3 varieties in the "I" section, the I77.5 (Square ([IR]), I78 IR/CO and I79, I-R/Co. towns are Athens, PA; Newark, NJ; Easton, PA respectively.

I-Love_Stamps; No. the catalog you mention is just a older much, much shortened WW catalog, that was issued many years ago, and the "Americans section" covers NA, SA, and CA countries. The catalog I mention is the "big" Catalog of United States Perfins, by John Randall, issued 1998. I don't know what the non member price is, but likely close to $100 (I think it is $70 to members). Contact John and ask him.

Hal; The older (first version) of the perfins catalog had it listed as R-whatever, as that is what the oroginal editor deemed it to be. Many tons of water have gone under the bridge since the first catalog was issued. The corrections and additions (4 set) pages are about one inch thick updating the 1998 version of the printing. If you plan on getting the catalog, get the A&D pages as well.

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Posted 01/26/2013   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for you help here.

Much appreciated

Chimo

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Posted 01/26/2013   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got this from a member in FB.

http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfins...cts/3787.pdf

Information is good from both sources but one has to be right. I am inclined to lean towards the Catalog Of US Perfins.

Chimo

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Edited by Bujutsu - 01/26/2013 2:04 pm
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Posted 01/26/2013   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another reference to an RJR perfin being attributed to the Roberts, Johnson and Rand Shoe Co., St. Louis, MO (EKU 1908):

http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfins...cts/3798.pdf

However, that is not to say there could have been more than one type of "RJR" perfin (just like the Ingersoll Rand perfins noted earlier in this thread). A picture or scan will help identify it more accurately than any written description can.
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Posted 01/26/2013   3:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1: Yes there is another RJR pattern (R96), listed as you say. However the pattern noted earlier was R J (dot) R, which is RJ Reynolds. The only way to get all the info is with the aforementioned Perfins Club catalog.

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Posted 01/26/2013   4:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. Just goes to prove that a picture or scan is worth so much more as an identifier than just a narrative description.
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