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Neat New Stampless Cover From Tonight.

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Posted 02/20/2013   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I bought a stampless cover tonight for no other reason than I liked the writing! Have a look->
I believe it says
Messieurs Henry Garrett & Co.
Philadelphia


Front:


Back:
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Posted 02/20/2013   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice cover.

I agree ILS, there was definately a style of writing back in those days. With the computer and keyboarding as it is today, I am thinking that we will see writing decline even more.

Chimo

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Posted 02/20/2013   7:41 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The handwriting is enviable, I agree, but this cover has so much more going for it! Have you had the chance to identify the postmarks? It even has a kewl embossed seal on the back ...
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Posted 02/20/2013   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I definitely seen them but I don't know much of anything about them Though. I also see written across the top is "SHIP BURGUNDY" Was this carried on an ship? or maybe to or from it?
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Posted 02/20/2013   9:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know the origin but it was dispatched through Havre, France on the packet Burgundy. I don't know when the Burgundy first made tranatlantic mail runs but I know of it sailing to New York as early as 1841.
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Posted 02/20/2013   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love that! That's just gorgeous. I try to snazz up the address on the letters I mail, but mine's more whimsical.
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Posted 02/20/2013   10:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
but I know of it sailing to New York as early as 1841.


So there is nothing else to date this lovely cover?
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Posted 02/20/2013   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice stampless transatlantic cover. Handwriting was definitely more of an art form back in the day. My poor handwriting looks like I'm trying to write with the wrong hand during an earthquake compared to above.
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Posted 02/20/2013   11:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Holly Snappers! Jeff, that is a thing of beauty! Well done. A beautiful addition to your collection.
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Posted 02/20/2013   11:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps 1845 rates, double letter rate (10 cent) plus 2 cent ship for 12 cents? Until 1845 ship rate to Philadelphia I believe was 15 cents.

Edit: I'm sure that either Chip or Winston will be able to provide some info on this.
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Edited by Russ - 02/20/2013 11:45 pm
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Posted 02/21/2013   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all the nice compliments everybody! Rileysan I would very much love to find out about all the postmarks. Thats the other reason I bought it actually. I just thought it had great eye appeal.

Thank you very much James! I just had to have it when I saw it. I gave less than $12.00 U.S.D. shipped! lol

Russ {or anybody} would you know what that [P.P.] represents?
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Posted 02/21/2013   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
P.P. would be "Pre-paid" I think.
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Posted 02/21/2013   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee: Close..same idea, but in French, P.P. (Port Payé) which translates to Postage Paid.
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Posted 02/21/2013   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I thought also but I'm unsure of these types of postal markings so I thought I'd ask. Thank you BeeSee.
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Posted 02/21/2013   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The ASCC shows that a red, 26mm high "12" with townmark was used on ship mail in 1846.
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Posted 02/21/2013   8:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll have to measure it in the morning. Tat would be very helpful to be able to date it.
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