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Posted 02/28/2013   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add philb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i could use some help on this one...went through the alphabetic towns of Alabam and cold not find anything close to the name on the stamp !

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Dollin doesn't ring any bells but this is not my area by a long shot. Also if I may add to your question- does anyone have that list of rarer high value precancels . I know its on scf somewhere but can't find it. I have a few that also don't ring any bells and figure that check list is a good start for possible rarity issues.
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Posted 02/28/2013   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bolling, AL (Type 717, only type known for that town).

For the record, a Type 717 is known as Bold 2.5mm block capital letters with 2.5mm spacing between town and state names.
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These are the precancels that are listed as -AA- rarity, only one known.
Other precancels from these towns might be common - you have to match the town and TYPE.
If you have any of these towns - please display them on SCF and we will confirm.

State Town Type Value DPO Have
AL MILLBROOK 704 $1,000.00 No No
AL PRATTVILLE 482 $1,000.00 No No
AR HAMBURG 492 $1,000.00 No No
CA ARVIN 477 $1,000.00 No No
CA EXETER 631 $1,000.00 No No
CA FELLOWS 631 $1,000.00 No No
CA TAFT 476 $1,000.00 No No
CO LIMON 476 $1,000.00 No No
CT STONINGTON 633 $1,000.00 No No
CT WOODBURY 608 $1,000.00 No Yes
DE BRIDGEVILLE 259 $1,000.00 No No
DE FRANKFORD 633 $1,000.00 No No
DE LEWES 631 $1,000.00 No No
FL NEW SMYRNA 471 $1,000.00 Yes No
GA FAIRBURN 492 $1,000.00 No No
GA PERRY 631 $1,000.00 No No
IA ALTOONA 492 $1,000.00 No No
IA ASHTON L-1 TS $1,000.00 No No
IA BANCROFT 631 $1,000.00 No No
IA ELDORA 701 $1,000.00 No No
IA GILBERT 455 $1,000.00 No No 95
IA GRANDMOUND 471 $1,000.00 Yes No 2 WDS
IA HEDRICK 492 $1,000.00 No No
IA KNOXVILLE 622 $1,000.00 No No
IA LAURENS L-1 TS $1,000.00 No No
IA NASHUA 621 $1,000.00 No No HAU
IA NEW ALBIN 632 $1,000.00 No No
IA OLLIE 631 $1,000.00 No No
IA ONTARIO 621 $1,000.00 Yes Yes
IA PERSIA 479 $1,000.00 No No
IA POLK CITY 466 $1,000.00 No No
IA ROCK VALLEY 471 $1,000.00 No No
IA ROWLEY 492 $1,000.00 No No
IA WALKER 621 $1,000.00 No No
IA WEST POINT 704 $1,000.00 No No
ID CASCADE 492 $1,000.00 No No
IL APPLE RIVER 471 $1,000.00 No No
IL BEARDSTOWN 471 $1,000.00 No No
IL COULTERVILLE 471 $1,000.00 No No
IL COWDEN 479 $1,000.00 No No
IL ELMWOOD 494 $1,000.00 No No
IL EUREKA 490 $1,000.00 No No
IL FINDLAY 631 $1,000.00 No No
IL LUDLOW 621 $1,000.00 No No
IL MOUNT CARMEL 486 $1,000.00 No No
IL SAUNEMIN 703 $1,000.00 No No
IL TEUTOPOLIS 482 $1,000.00 No No
IL VALMEYER 632 $1,000.00 No No
IL WASHBURN 632 $1,000.00 No No
IN ATTICA L-4 HS $1,000.00 No No
IN CHESTERTON 704 $1,000.00 No No
IN GLENWOOD 631 $1,000.00 No No
IN MONROEVILLE 471 $1,000.00 No No
IN NEW SALISBURY L-1 HS $1,000.00 No No
IN REYNOLDS 622 $1,000.00 No No
IN ROACHDALE 622 $1,000.00 No No
KS BAXTER SPRINGS 487 $1,000.00 No No
KS COLBY 477 $1,000.00 No No
KS GENESEO 548 $1,000.00 No No
KS NORCATUR 633 $1,000.00 No No
KS WATERVILLE 622 $1,000.00 No No
KY AUGUSTA 717 $1,000.00 No No
KY MAYS LICK 632 $1,000.00 Yes No
KY MUNFORDVILLE 623 $1,000.00 No No
LA RAYVILLE 479 $1,000.00 No No
MA FALMOUTH 734 $1,000.00 No Yes
MA HAVERHILL 455.5 $1,000.00 No No
MA HINGHAM 631 $1,000.00 No No 95
MA NORTH BROOKFIELD 624 $1,000.00 No No
MD TRAPPE 701 $1,000.00 No No
ME DAMARISCOTTA 633 $1,000.00 No No
ME FREEDOM 632 $1,000.00 No No
ME MILLINOCKET 415 $1,000.00 No No
ME SOLON 602 $1,000.00 No No
MI BREEDSVILLE 632 $1,000.00 No No
MI BROOKLYN 632 $1,000.00 No No
MI CLIMAX 602 $1,000.00 No No
MI ERIE 476 $1,000.00 Yes No
MI GAYLORD 631 $1,000.00 No No
MI HAMILTON 466 $1,000.00 No No
MI INKSTER 493 $1,000.00 No No
MI LOWELL 631 $1,000.00 No No
MI NUNICA 604 $1,000.00 No No
MI PORT HOPE 466 $1,000.00 No No
MI PORT HURON 704 $1,000.00 No No
MN BARNUM 701 $1,000.00 No No
MN BRONSON 492 $1,000.00 Yes No
MN CANNON FALLS 471 $1,000.00 No No
MN COHASSET 466 $1,000.00 No No
MN COMFREY 492 $1,000.00 No No
MN DONNELLY 468 $1,000.00 No No
MN DUMONT 631 $1,000.00 No No
MN DUNNELL 621 $1,000.00 No No
MN EDGERTON 466 $1,000.00 No No
MN HACKENSACK L-4 M $1,000.00 No No
MN INTERNATIONAL FALLS 542 $1,000.00 No No
MN ISANTI 490 $1,000.00 No No
MN ISLE 491 $1,000.00 No No
MN JANESVILLE 632 $1,000.00 No No
MN LAKEFIELD 608 $1,000.00 No No
MN MAYER 477 $1,000.00 No No
MN MILAN 490 $1,000.00 No No
MN MONTICELLO 632 $1,000.00 No No
MN MOTLEY 716.5 $1,000.00 No No
MN OKABENA 492 $1,000.00 No No
MN PARKERS PRAIRIE 473 $1,000.00 No No
MN SAINT CLAIR 608 $1,000.00 No No
MN SHELLY 631 $1,000.00 No No
MN SUNBURG 479 $1,000.00 No No
MN ULEN 478 $1,000.00 No No
MN VERNDALE 466 $1,000.00 No No
MN WESTBURY 734 $1,000.00 Yes No
MO FORDLAND 466 $1,000.00 No No
MO FREDERICKTOWN 467 $1,000.00 No No
MO HARRIS 490 $1,000.00 Yes No
MO WAYLAND 631 $1,000.00 No No
MS LOUISVILLE 482 $1,000.00 No No
MS LUCEDALE 608 $1,000.00 No No
NC LEXINGTON 466 $1,000.00 No No
NC MOORESVILLE 632 $1,000.00 No No
NC TARBORO 492 $1,000.00 No No
ND BERTHOLD 608 $1,000.00 No No
ND CORINTH 492 $1,000.00 Yes No
ND HAYNES 621 $1,000.00 Yes No
ND POWERS LAKE 623 $1,000.00 No No
ND SHERWOOD 482 $1,000.00 No No
ND SOLEN 631 $1,000.00 No No
NE ALDA 621 $1,000.00 No No
NE ARNOLD 602 $1,000.00 No No
NE HARDY 631 $1,000.00 No No
NE HAZARD 490 $1,000.00 Yes No
NE INAVALE 703 $1,000.00 Yes No
NE PICKRELL 602 $1,000.00 No No
NE SCHUYLER 633 $1,000.00 No No
NE STAPLEHURST 633 $1,000.00 No No
NE YUTAN 621 $1,000.00 No No
NJ NEW GRETNA 713 $1,000.00 No No
NM CAPITAN 631 $1,000.00 No No
NM ROSWELL 479 $1,000.00 No No
NY ALDEN 490 $1,000.00 No No
NY ANDES 490 $1,000.00 No No
NY BRIDGEHAMPTON L-1 TS $1,000.00 No No
NY CINCINNATUS 622 $1,000.00 No No
NY CLIFTON 631 $1,000.00 Yes No
NY DRYDEN 631 $1,000.00 No No
NY EARLVILLE 632 $1,000.00 No No
NY FULTON 631 $1,000.00 No No
NY GLEN AUBREY 608 $1,000.00 No No
NY GORHAM 602 $1,000.00 No No
NY HARTSDALE 632 $1,000.00 No No
NY HONEOYE 717 $1,000.00 No No
NY KENNEDY 631 $1,000.00 No No
NY LOOMIS 729 $1,000.00 Yes No
NY MCLEAN 631 $1,000.00 No No MC L
NY MIDDLEPORT 454 $1,000.00 No No
NY MOIRA 728 $1,000.00 No No
NY NELSON 631 $1,000.00 Yes No
NY PRATTSBURG 632 $1,000.00 Yes No
NY RED HOOK 632 $1,000.00 No Yes
NY SHORTSVILLE 471 $1,000.00 No No
NY VALATIE 558 $1,000.00 No No
NY WEST AMBOY 723 $1,000.00 No No
NY WORCESTER 466 $1,000.00 No No
OH AKRON L-6 M $1,000.00 No No
OH CECIL 621 $1,000.00 No No
OH CHESAPEAKE 622 $1,000.00 No No
OH DAYTON L-2 TS $1,000.00 No No
OH DEFIANCE L-2 TS $1,000.00 No No
OH GLOUSTER 466 $1,000.00 No No
OH LEWISBURG 608 $1,000.00 No No
OH MARIETTA L-5 M $1,000.00 No No
OH NEW HOLLAND 606 $1,000.00 No No
OH OLMSTED FALLS 578 $1,000.00 Yes No
OH SOLON 490 $1,000.00 Yes No
OH STEUBENVILLE 454 $1,000.00 No No
OH SYLVANIA 492 $1,000.00 No No
OH WEST SALEM 471 $1,000.00 No No
OH WOODSFIELD 471 $1,000.00 No No
OH WORTHINGTON 633 $1,000.00 Yes No
OK BALKO 490 $1,000.00 No No
OK PERRY 604 $1,000.00 No No
OR COQUILLE 492 $1,000.00 No No
OR FOREST GROVE 486 $1,000.00 No No
OR MYRTLE CREEK 633 $1,000.00 No No
PA AVONDALE 622 $1,000.00 No No
PA BAKERSTOWN 632 $1,000.00 No No
PA CENTRE HALL 471 $1,000.00 No No
PA COVERDALE 704 $1,000.00 Yes No
PA DALTON 712 $1,000.00 No No
PA FAIRFIELD 734 $1,000.00 No No
PA FINLEYVILLE 633 $1,000.00 No No
PA GLADE 701 $1,000.00 Yes No
PA GLENLYON 466 $1,000.00 Yes No 2 WDS
PA GREENCASTLE 622 $1,000.00 No No
PA INDIANA 492 $1,000.00 No No
PA LANSFORD 466 $1,000.00 No No
PA MAYTOWN 466 $1,000.00 No No
PA MERCER 631 $1,000.00 No No
PA MEYERSDALE 622 $1,000.00 No No
PA MINERSVILLE 704 $1,000.00 No No
PA MORWOOD 703 $1,000.00 Yes No
PA MOUNT JOY 729 $1,000.00 No No
PA NESCOPECK 466 $1,000.00 No No
PA PLUMVILLE 713 $1,000.00 No No
PA RUSH 476 $1,000.00 Yes No
PA SHINGLEHOUSE 623 $1,000.00 No No
PA SLATINGTON 482 $1,000.00 No No
PA WATERFORD 482 $1,000.00 No No
PA WEATHERLY 482 $1,000.00 No No
SC TRAVELLERS REST 611 $1,000.00 Yes No
SD ASTORIA 621 $1,000.00 No No
SD BUTLER 716 $1,000.00 Yes No
SD FRANKFORT 482 $1,000.00 No No
SD IPSWICH 455 $1,000.00 No No
SD ONIDA 621 $1,000.00 No No
SD WESSINGTON SPRINGS 463.5 $1,000.00 No No
TN ELORA 490 $1,000.00 No No
TX BASTROP 492 $1,000.00 No No
TX BELTON 490 $1,000.00 No No
TX CENTER 602 $1,000.00 No No
TX COMANCHE 466 $1,000.00 No No
TX EDCOUCH 621 $1,000.00 No No
TX HITCHCOCK 632 $1,000.00 No No
TX HOUSTON L-7 M $1,000.00 No No
TX HOWE 631 $1,000.00 No No
TX LANCASTER 466 $1,000.00 No No
TX LLANO 490 $1,000.00 No No
TX LOMETA 631 $1,000.00 No No
TX NAZARETH 608 $1,000.00 No No
TX NEW WAVERLY 623 $1,000.00 No No
TX PALO PINTO 704 $1,000.00 No No
TX SEALY 631 $1,000.00 No No
TX WEIMAR 479 $1,000.00 No No
TX WHITESBORO 471 $1,000.00 No No
VT ISLAND POND 608 $1,000.00 No No
VT PUTNEY 631 $1,000.00 No No
WI ARGYLE 631 $1,000.00 No No
WI BERLIN 490 $1,000.00 No No
WI GLEASON 621 $1,000.00 No No
WI GRIMMS 492 $1,000.00 Yes No
WI HORICON 631 $1,000.00 No No
WI LIMERIDGE 466 $1,000.00 Yes No
WI LOMIRA 602 $1,000.00 No No
WI MIDDLETON 466 $1,000.00 Yes No
WI NEW LISBON 471 $1,000.00 No No
WI OAKDALE 455 $1,000.00 No No
WI RIO 621 $1,000.00 No No
WI SPRINGBROOK 471 $1,000.00 No No
WI STODDARD 608 $1,000.00 No No
WV BUCKHANNON 471 $1,000.00 No No
WV FOLLANSBEE 503 $1,000.00 No No
WV RONCEVERTE 482 $1,000.00 No No
WV SHINNSTON 404 $1,000.00 No No
WY GILLETTE 492 $1,000.00 No No


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Posted 02/28/2013   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's quite a list. What is an L-7? I'm guessing the number after the town is a Scott number?
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Posted 02/28/2013   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not Scott# - I suspect the majority of the super-scarce ones are on SC632 or SC705.
The number is the precancel type as organized in the PSS town and type catalog.
The L-types were locally produced, all the numeric type devices were supplied to the towns via the POD from WashDC. 400 500 and 600 series were rubber, 700 series metal.
The list I posted here was [easily] created from the PSS T&T program [highly recommended].
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Posted 02/28/2013   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, our little town Red Hook, New York made the list with a Scott #632!
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Posted 02/28/2013   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some Houston TX L-types from the T&T catalog...

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Posted 02/28/2013   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WT1 Hats off to you Sir..i did two scans of Alabama towns and cities and Bolling did not come up either time...not even close !
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Posted 02/28/2013   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Houston L-7 M [for mimeograph printing] was found on the 10 cent parcel post - lets turn up a second one!
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Posted 02/28/2013   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Google could not help me..but when I look in"The Precancel Stamp Society's town and type catalog of the United States and Territories"..There she is !!
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Posted 02/28/2013   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a bunch of Houston precancels. I'll have to dig through them again.
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Posted 02/28/2013   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I did two scans of Alabama towns and cities and Bolling did not come up either time


There's no longer a post office there, so I understand. According to Jim Forte's Postal History website, the post office closed circa 1980.
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Posted 02/28/2013   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the Red Hook NY PSS-632. When the latest edition of the precancel catalog came out, only one was known - on a 1 cent bicentennial. I found this second example:

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Posted 02/28/2013   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You kind of stole the other guys thunder didn't ya! That's pretty neat to have one of only two known in your tongs.
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Thanks, its nice to see my town represented..interesting to wonder who used the precancel..there was a chocolate factory before my time thats now a minimall..i wonder how much mailing they could have done ?
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