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Used Stamps With Fancy Cancel Vs. Used Stamps

 
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Posted 04/24/2013   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Some collectors love used stamps with fancy cancels, even if the cancel obliterates the stamp. Some collectors would rather have a neat, clean cancel on a used stamp.

So my question is, How do you know how to price a fancy cancel for selling? I would think fancy cancels would draw a premium, but how much?


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Posted 04/24/2013   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is at least one catalog for US Fancy Cancels.

Perhaps these can help - http://bob.trachimowicz.org/uscchome.htm
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Posted 04/26/2013   10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The apparent answer...

How Much is a Fancy Cancel Worth?

As with everything, it is a matter of opinion. As I said above, fancy cancel collectors will keep stamps that other collectors will reject. Bill Weiss has an excellent state of this in his book on New york Foreign Mails, I'll quote this one day if I remember to get permission from him to post it. One important factor in prices for Fancy Cancels is the quantity in which they are purchased. As with any stamps (or other purchases) one can buy thousands of these for less then a dollar each and find a mix of stamps form a few pennies to many dollars. Purchased individually one must pay for the dealers handling.

A worthless 3 cent green with a tear and a thin with a boldly struck unlisted shield is still worth a few dollars. The same stamp would be thrown away without it. The same shield on a perfect 3 cent green might go for $30 to $75. With a listed shield the value might go up to $35 to as much as $100. Depends on the shield. If it is a complex shield the value goes up. If it's a Waterbury the value goes up. A shield with stars is more valuable. One with an eagle is even more so.

What about a shield on a 7 cent Banknote? The value could go up considerably. A perfect 160 catalogs about $90 - might sell for close to that in VF/XF. With a shield cancel - let's say a simple, but nice one - it might go for $135 - or even more. It depends on just how pretty it is and how many people want it that week.

65s catalog $2.50 each and can be bought for pennies each in quantity. With a mix of ordinary Fancy Cancels they can sell for a dollar or two each. With nice cancels - the skies the limit.

The classic example of the value of a Fancy Cancel is the Running Chicken. The famous cover has a strip of three of the 1c 1869 (112) on a very nice cover. My guess is that that cover without the cancel would sell for a few thousand dollars - maybe. With the Running Chicken it last sold for $275,000.

Of the four main books that I use (Cole, Skinner & Eno, Weiss and Herst) only Herst tried to give a value range. He was a stamp dealer so I guess we can understand that. Weiss is an auctioneer and he only give three indications - Common, Scarce and Rare. Cole uses a range of factors from -I to III+. I find this quite useful, but I disagree with some of his values. Skinner & Eno gives no indication of values or scarcity - nice project for someone.

So what's a Fancy Cancel worth? Depends on just how pretty it is and who wants to pay for it.

http://uweb1.superlink.net/~frank/myopinions.htm


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Posted 04/26/2013   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It comes down to supply & demand and the availability of the cancel at hand. If I collected them and needed a certain one then I would be willing to spend a little more than usual on it. If I just seen it and wasn't on the hunt fr it then I would only pay for the condition aspects of the stamp. Like I said supply & demand and a specialty market can make things tricky.
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