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Posted 05/28/2013   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bujutsu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have this British postcard with the word "REMOVED" on it.

Can any member shed any light about how and why this marking was used?

Thanks a lot

Chimo

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Posted 05/28/2013   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a guess

If that is an out of date cancel[ the stamp is from 1929 ], during WW2 the Britts used Blackout cancels, so that if mail was intercepted by the Germans, they would not know where the Main P.O.s were, and harbors.

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Edited by bobgggg - 05/28/2013 2:09 pm
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Posted 05/28/2013   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks bobggg

The cancellation is also 1929, between the 2 World Wars though. The "REMOVED' suggests to me that 'something was removed from the card as opposed to 're-moved' meaning to a new location. Also a guess on my part <G>. Thanks for the suggestion.

Chimo

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Posted 05/28/2013   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, no, no. "Removed" is British for "moved," which is why you see another address penciled in.
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Posted 05/28/2013   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another new thing learned on SCF today!


Quote:
"Removed" is British for "moved," which is why you see another address penciled in.

I don't collect covers, but that's both interesting and useful to know.

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Posted 05/28/2013   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thinking about this a little more -- why would the British post office be stamping "REMOVED" on the postcard? If the postcard could not be delivered as addressed, I would have thought the US post office would be hand-stamping it and then looking for an updated address. I don't see a return address, so it doesn't appear that the postcard could have been sent back to GB. What don't I understand here?
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Posted 05/28/2013   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bujutsu, could I trouble you to change the title of this thread. Maybe something like: "REMOVED" handstamp on British postcard? It would facilitate future searches. Thank you in advance!
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Posted 05/29/2013   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Didn't realize it was a British term for a new relocation. Thanks for letting me know. Something new for me again.

I don't know why I didn't clue in to the address being marked out and another in place of it. I was thinking more on the lines of improper postage or a stamp was 'removed'.

So, after learning this, I guess I can call this marking an 'instructional' one (?)

Chimo

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Posted 05/29/2013   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Forgive my stupidity here but I cannot remember how to change a title of a thread. I did it once before but it was some time ago. I did it with the "Paquebot" cancellations thread.

I am willing to change this thread to REMOVED Marking.

Sorry to be a problem

Chimo

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Posted 05/29/2013   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Edit your first post- in the box where it says 'title' change it to 'GB REMOVED marking on 1929 postcard' or whatever title you want.
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Posted 05/29/2013   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Looks like someone needs some . . . er . . what are these called?

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Posted 05/29/2013   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
khj
I'm with you. Don't see how this mark is anything to do with the postal service from Great Britain. The card was originally addressed to Brooklyn, then crossed through and re-addressed to a different New York location. Doesn't look like anything is missing from the card, so what 'REMOVED' means in this case is a mystery to me. I can't find any reference to such a mark being used by our Post Office, but I stand to be corrected. As for 'REMOVED' meaning moved (to a new location) in Britain, never heard that!
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Posted 05/29/2013   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those aren't staple holes above the D in POST CARD, are they?

(The theory I'm chasing is that someone illegally attached something to a card that was only paying the postcard rate.)
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Posted 05/29/2013   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Google:

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removed past participle, past tense of re·move (Verb)
Verb

1. Take away (something unwanted or unnecessary) from the position it occupies.
2. Take (something) from a place in order to take it to another location.


So the new address is 'at a remove' or has been removed from the former location to it's new location. The verb removed is referring to the actual business or people at that location while also referring to the actual address as an entity, so both have been remobved and relocated to a new location or destination, postally speaking.

A slightly oilder, formal term.
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Posted 05/29/2013   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am inclined to agree with the explanation provided by Doug and Puzzler.
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Posted 05/29/2013   5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The post card is postmarked in Hythe in Kent.

I agree the "Removed" handstamp will have been applied in the US. "Removed" used to be a common word here in the UK for "moved house" and I guess it was used to some extent in the US also at one time.

Puzzler, "remove" was an intransitive verb in this sense so "we removed to Kent" not "we were removed to Kent".

I've heard the word used in this sense here occasionally in recent years but not often and it sounds old-fashioned to me when I do hear it. However, the words "removers" and "removals" are still used regularly in the UK by firms that transport your household furniture and belongings when you move house.
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