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$1 Washington Booklets Bk112 / Bk114 & Bk113 / Bk115

 
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Posted 05/29/2013   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add josefk17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am running into difficulty in finding the difference between the $1 Washington booklets with slogans 2 & 3. I know what the different slogans are, however when looking at Scott, they are listed as follows:



BK112 BC13A blue slogan 2
BK113 BC13A blue slogan 3
BK114 BC13A blue slogan 2
BK115 BC13A blue slogan 3

The booklet covers are all the same.

So, how can I tell the difference between BK112 / BK114 and BK113 / BK115. There is no description - that I could locate - that identifies the differences between these pair.

Thanks in advance for everyone's assistance.

Joe



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Posted 05/29/2013   6:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ncbuckeye to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We need a booklet expert to answer this question. I THINK BK112 and BK113 are untagged and BK114 and BK115 are tagged.
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Posted 05/29/2013   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add josefk17 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like you maybe correct. Just need confirmation.

I was reading Robert Furman's book: United States Stamp Booklets - Postage & Airmail, it notes there are tagged and untagged. The tagged stamps were printed on "Hi-Brite" paper if I'm reading his notations correctly. Of course Mr. Furman's book does not use Scott numbers, but old Krause numbers.

So if there is a booklet expert out there, could you please confirm this difference.

Cheers

Joe
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Posted 05/29/2013   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The BK 114's that I see for sale are described as "Tagged".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-BK114-5-...em4d0cc61f4e

But to muddy the waters, here is a BK112 PSE cert that states "On high-brite paper. Maybe the BK112 on high-brite paper is a very rare item and normally not printed on that paper ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1213a-BK112...em2c6c64181a
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I can confirm that the difference between BK112-BK113 and BK114-BK115 is that the latter contain tagged stamps. This is implied by the fact that BK114-BK115 are listed after 1213c (the tagged booklet pane). Scott does a disservice by inserting a bold-face larger font header "Booklets" between 1213c and BK114-BK115, which tends to disconnect the tagged group and cause confusion.

Hibrite refers to the paper, not the taggant, and is a separate parameter from tagging. Usually, hibrite varieties are studied for untagged stamps. Scott does not list hibrite paper varieties. For that you have to reference Furman.

Scott will list the number of booklet cover varieties in parenthesis, but does not describe the varieties. For that also, you must reference Furman.
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BK112 is difficult to find, hence the nice premium. The hibrite paper variety is even less, but I do not have the print quantities. In the past, it was typically ~2x the normal paper variety.

I'm not sure where the seller is getting the $500 catalog value stated in the listing details, but then again I don't have the most recent edition of the Scott US Specialized.
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Posted 05/29/2013   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add josefk17 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks for all the help and clarification.

Cheers

Joe
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Yes, the front covers are identical (although there are a number of different varieties on the BK113 & BK115 if you take the inside covers and back cover into account, some obvious, some subtle, but Scott does not give different numbers for these or even say what they are). The differences between the different BK numbers are all in the stamp panes. Different slogans and untagged or tagged as already explained. The hi-brite that has been mentioned is the paper's reaction to longwave UV (black light) while tagging is detected with a shortwave UV light.
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Posted 06/01/2013   8:15 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is an earlier version of the Furman book that does use Scott numbers.
Both the new and old version contain some factual errors and the prices are often off (and not always in the same direction), so use it with some caution.
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Posted 06/01/2013   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There is an earlier version of the Furman book that does use Scott numbers.

I didn't know that! Do you know the edition or copyright year of that catalog?
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Posted 06/02/2013   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!
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