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Posted 12/17/2008   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add philb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
As I do my window shopping on ebay..never successful on decent material as the competition is the whole planet..i think I may be acquiring a taste for pre 1940 U.S. Covers..they are plentiful and inexpensive compared to say Guatemala covers of the same era..i can pick a particular theme or even stamp and put together a individualized collection..now to the U.S. catalog for ideas !
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Posted 12/17/2008   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i think I will start my cover collection rather broadly at first..perhaps covers from my local counties Dutchess and Columbia and perhaps to a smaller extent Ulster co. right accross the bridge..the stamp I am considering at the moment is the 14 cent American indian stamp but I would have to read up on its main reason for existance at the time...14 cent stamp that is..
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Posted 12/19/2008   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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.the stamp I am considering at the moment is the 14 cent American indian stamp but I would have to read up on its main reason for existance at the time...14 cent stamp that is..


The stamp features a portrait of Sioux leader Hollow Horn Bear.

I am not sure there was any specific rate for a 14c stamp. It is difficult to find on cover.



James T. McCusker has this FDC in his December 29th auction.
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Posted 12/20/2008   04:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The fee for Special Delivery, perhaps?

Just a guess, you understand...


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Posted 12/20/2008   07:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I agree. Here are some possible uages for a 14c stamp:

1) special delivery overweight letters (1-2 ounces) - double the 2c first class rate plus 10c special delivery

2) registered overweight letters (2-3 ounces) - triple the 2c first class letter rate plus 8c registration
This partial cover on eBay may be an example of this rate.



3) makeup postage for use on heavier packages and on shipping tags
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Posted 12/20/2008   07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a "special delivery" cover on ebay with a solo Scott #565.



However this is a first day cover prepared by Henry Hammelman and
does not represent a double-weight special delivery usage.

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Posted 12/20/2008   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlorenz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phil

I will check through my covers if I come across one with the 14 cent Indian design it's yours!
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Posted 12/20/2008   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Phil....

I think this would be a great way to expand your collection. If you find that you have some trouble finding the 14 cent with the cancels you want. you might want to consider incorporating the whole set rather than just the one stamp. A full set with similar cancels on cover would make a handsome collection.
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Posted 12/22/2008   10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys ! I took a look at the ebay auction that T360 pointed to, the bid is $189.00 ! I may have to let the indian go and seek a humbler topic !!
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Posted 12/22/2008   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phil:

If you are going to study United States covers... you cannot beat Texas Air Postal History.

My biases aside... a few areas of United States postal history to study, that are inexpensive, and lots of fun are:

6¢ Teddy Roosevelt stamp from the Liberty Series
1932 series honouring 200th Anniversary of the birth of George Washington
3¢ Win The War stamp



David
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Posted 12/26/2008   7:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An even tougher challenge would be to include examples of Canal Zone #116 postally used on cover.



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Posted 12/26/2008   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lets be realistic !! I am not buying a car....
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Posted 01/15/2009   07:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
philb - Have you found any 14c American Indian covers?
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Posted 01/15/2009   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That would be a negative Big T360 !!
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Posted 01/25/2009   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Philb,
Here is the 14c stamp used on a registered cover to Austria in 1928.





Unfortunately this is an oversized cover so it may not be what you are looking for. If you
could use it, then just let me know and it will be on its way to Red Hook in the morning.
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Posted 01/25/2009   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
J E. Guest was a Dallas stamp dealer in the 1920s. Here is an ad he placed in the
Canadian Stamp Collector, Official Organ of The Canadian Philalelic Association, Vol. 1. APRIL, 1920 No. 1.

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Guest's New Issue
Approval Service

Sends on approval, to responsible collectors new issues,
other than British Colonials, at a small fraction over
cost. Send for a trial selection. Wholesale lots for
dealers.

GOOD NEWS FOR CANADIAN COLLECTORS
I cater to Canadian trade and accept Canadian Currency and
money orders (payable in Canada) at par, also
your personal check.
Buy From Me and Save American Exchange

-J E GUEST
P.O. Box 1042 DALLAS, Texas, U.S.A.

Why not Join America's leading stamp society, The American Philatelic
Society. Will gladly send you application blank. Ask me.

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