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Railroad Perfins?

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Posted 01/20/2013   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my contribution to this topic. I actually have a bunch of these . This is not my best but it is the one most handy.

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Posted 01/20/2013   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stepahead to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could that be Smith, Payne & Smith, Bankers?
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Posted 01/20/2013   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You may be right.
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Posted 01/20/2013   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not close....Stepahead, nice try though....

"SPS" is catalog # S232 - Spokane, Portland & Seattle Railway. (same reference as before) :)

Hal
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Posted 01/20/2013   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hal, I believed it to be a Scott 922 with an 1 1/2 Southern Pacific perfin. I am very much a newbie to collecting and the chances that I am wrong are better than me being correct.
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Posted 01/20/2013   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Stampfan9" we're all new to some stamp or cover and I'm always wrong... just ask my wife. I haven't got one thing right for 45 years that we've been married -- which is why I stay in my "STAMP CAVE"! At least here I'm at least half-rigth! :) I was just having a bit of fun with Stepahead

I learn something new about stamps or covers every single day and I started collecting over 55 years ago! And, if you ever to do want to do a quick-check on what you have in a US issue, go to http://www.1847usa.com/ it's a great quick reference tool.

Hal
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Posted 01/20/2013   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp scanned above is "SP" = Southern Pacific.

If it were "SPS" (Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railway) the initials would be much closer together so at least part of all three initials would appear on the stamp.
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Posted 01/20/2013   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SOUTHERN PACIFIC PERFINS ARE #233 and # 234 and cannot be confused with the Spokane, Portland & Seattle Railway perfins (#231 & 232). See Page 399 & 400 of the "CATALOG OF UNITED STATES PERFINS", piublished by THE PERFINS CLUB (1979). They show only two each for both organizations. Others using "SPS" have "CO" included.



Hal
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Edited by Hal - 01/20/2013 10:55 pm
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Posted 01/21/2013   01:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Check S216.

This is the example included in The Perfins Bulletin (April 2006):



Southern Pacific used several perfin varieties, including the ones you scanned.

Here's another reference:



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Posted 01/21/2013   03:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stepahead to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Hal. I just thought I'd throw that one in.

Apart from the perfin being on a train stamp, how can you tell it's a railway perfin?
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Posted 01/21/2013   05:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this a "BO" a Rail Road perfin? (Baltimore & Ohio Rail Road)



Does the ATC perfin stand for the American Tobacco Company by any chance?

I "flipped" it over for easier viewing.


B&O R.R. perfin?
obverse:


reverse:


I cropped this image but for some reason it didn't seem to "take"?
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 01/21/2013 06:21 am
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Posted 01/21/2013   08:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
B&O = Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. The hole below the "B" identifies the specific office that used that perfin. I do not have a catalog to identify it, though.

[edit] Just found this example (on cover) being offered on ebay. Since the perfin shown has the same dot below the "B" in "B&O" I suspect that it probably designates the office as Akron, Ohio:

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Edited by wt1 - 01/21/2013 08:41 am
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Posted 01/21/2013   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, WT1.. a great RR Perfin collection and write-up

Re-evaluating the 7-6-1/2 of the "SP" Southern Pacific Co. design spacing, you are right and I am wrong; I wasn't thinking outside the box .. the "perfin" comb /pattern box-- and an overlapped (or truncated) pattern effected by a commemorative issue.

Hal

I have a Lehigh Valley RR cover with Perfin around here somewhere ( in one of my boxes). I'll post a scan of it, if your interested.
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Edited by Hal - 01/21/2013 11:45 am
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Posted 01/21/2013   11:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I_Love_Stamps your "ATC" Perfin is an "AMERICAN TOBACCO CO."

CAT# Size/mm Location
267A 8.5 New York City

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Posted 01/21/2013   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both for great info! I like the perfins.
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