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Cracked Plate On #1304c ??

 
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Posted 10/16/2013   03:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, Has anyone ever run across a printing error like this before? I know about the "Dirty face" vs. "Clean face" but is this a cracked plate and is it listed? This stamp belongs to a friend and isn't mine but I can't find anything like it anywhere? Any help on this would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

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Posted 10/16/2013   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ILS....Looks to be a cracked plate.
Scott does not always lists sub types.
Also...looks to be a major cracked plate type....
I would obtain a cert and then submit to Scotts....
(due to size of crack)
Im sure more should be know, Im just not familiar with.
Good Luck.
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Posted 10/16/2013   08:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems more likely to be a thread that somehow got stuck on the plate while it was being inked; a cracked plate would show up every time that position was printed and would almost certainly be well known by now.
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Posted 10/16/2013   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've thought of both of these conclusions but I believe revcollector is onto something although there is the error called the "lorgnette error" but unsure of what that is exactly as of yet? Thank you for your input. That must be spelled wrong because a Google image search only yielded 2 stamps and of which is the one above? weird?
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 10/16/2013 08:25 am
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Posted 10/16/2013   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If this is a cracked plate, it is a whopper! And there should be plenty of earlier examples around. The Cottrell presses were famous for lots of platecracks, but even the "Buggy Whip" or the "Wounded P" are not this visible! I tend to agree with the Revcollector that this is not a cracked plate until another one comes along.

Peter
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Posted 10/16/2013   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK then I can agree with that. Sounds very logical to me. Thank you very much!
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Posted 10/17/2013   2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fimpster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Crying George!

lol, sorry. I just couldn't resit.
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Posted 10/25/2013   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add petrucellij to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a thought ... this stamp may be the last pressing of that plate before it was cleaned and re-engraved. I don't believe threaded paper was used too print that stamp . It may be an :ink clotting" on the plate / ink application. Just an opinion .


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Edited by petrucellij - 10/25/2013 10:57 am
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Posted 10/25/2013   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you kindly.
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Posted 10/25/2013   8:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The thread has nothing to do with threaded paper, it was a loose thread from someplace. A rag, someone's clothing, static, who knows?
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Posted 10/25/2013   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add petrucellij to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes ... I see a foreign object on the plate .

Look closely there is a break in the thread just below Washington's ascot near the bow.

Not challenging your opinion .Just pointing it out.
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Edited by petrucellij - 10/25/2013 10:31 pm
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Posted 10/25/2013   10:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That might have been caused by the physical printing process; if as I surmise it was a thread it simply snapped at that point due to the pressure.
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