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Scott #63 Identification From Scott #102

 
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Posted 11/17/2013   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Gar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello all, Was wondering if there was a way to identify the Franklin Scott #63 second Design from Franklin #102. I have researched a thread here that discussed color as being the only way to identify the 2 from one another. Paper was also discussed. I was hoping there was another way from a marking etc. Thanks, Gary

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Posted 11/17/2013   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Both stamps are the color "blue". This site might help you with paper types...

http://www.1847usa.com/BanknotePaperTypes.htm

Otherwise I would send it to Weiss for an opinion if it were me. Good Luck...


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Posted 11/17/2013   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IBFS, As always, I appreciate the input. The paper is what I get confused with the most. thanks for the suggestion... Respectfully, Gary
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Posted 11/17/2013   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't there a little dash (-) added over the ornament to the right of the numeral in the upper left of the design? Or am I thinking of something else entirely?
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Posted 11/17/2013   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, yes that's true, that determines if it is a 1861-1862 second design. But, there isn't any clarification of the differences from the 1875 re-issue of the 1861-1866 issues. Only says hard white paper for the re-issues and no paper type for the 1861 issues...Respectfully, Gary
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The re-issues have a strong, proof like, impression, are all (known copies) well centered and generally have a brighter blue color. The paper is very white. You can go into the Siegel action web site, open up the census data tab and see several images of known 102s. The photos aren't great, but you'll get a general idea of what the re-issue looks like. www.siegelauctions.com >tools and resources>census data
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Posted 11/17/2013   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Gator, That helps..Gary
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Posted 11/18/2013   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the right hand stamp is the #102 and the left hand stamp is the 63.
Why? I also believe the 63 was soft paper. With soft paper, you can sometimes tell it from others by the "stringers" or fibers that appear where it was separated from another stamp.
Also, stamps made from soft paper will not have a "snap" to it and should be able to see through it quite easily when you hold it up to a strong light.
Hard paper will snap when you hold it by the bottom then flick the top with your other hand.
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Posted 11/18/2013   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I believe the right hand stamp is the #102 and the left hand stamp is the 63.

Incorrect...sorry.
BOTH are #63s....#102 are on VERY white paper, VERY clear (proof like) impresson in HEAVY ultramarine. Easy to apart if you see one.
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Posted 11/18/2013   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, The one on the left is a scott#92 9 x13 mm. grill, I was using it as a reference for color. Now I know the difference of the color compared to the #102. More of an ultramarine, but the scott catalog lists it as "blue" not ultramarine. Thank you all for your input. I much appreciate it....Gary
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Posted 11/18/2013   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add huntersouthstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone recommend a good book on Washington stamps. I am big into reading as much as possible. Also new books mean better selling prices.

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Anyone recommend a good book on Washington stamps.


I can get you to 1921 with ...The Washington Franklins by Martin A. Armstrong.

There is also The Micarelli Identification Guide to US Stamps. This gets you to 1934.

Hope this helps.


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I recommed the Micarelli also....
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