Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

USPS Use Of Las Vegas Lady Liberty Stamp Results In Law Suit

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 9,828Next Topic
Page: of 2
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
12128 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Most will remember the media uproar that was caused when it was discovered the Lady Liberty Stamp of 2011 was not depicting the original Statue of Liberty in New York but instead the Las Vegas version of it.

Now it seems the creator of the Las Vegas sculpture is suing the US Postal Service for copyright infringement:

http://www.postalmag.com/statue.pdf

What do you think ... is the law suit justified?
Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
United States
8956 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The man should be proud that his work is used on a postage stamp!
Is the Ford Motor Company suing for using a picture of a Mustang?


Peter
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
12128 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   09:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Is the Ford Motor Company suing for using a picture of a Mustang?


No. But in the case of vehicles (i.e. Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge, etc., as in the Muscle Car stamps) there is a copyright acknowledgement included on the pane of stamps, proving that license was obtained for use of those images.

In the case of the Las Vegas Lady Liberty stamp, you may recall that it was initially declared a "mistake" that the USPS used an image from Las Vegas sculpture rather than from the original Statue of Liberty.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1121 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ummm, isn't the Las Vegas guy also guilty of copyright infringement by making a copy of the Statue of Liberty?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2778 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   10:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why did he wait so long?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1624 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first question I have is what did they purchase?
Tom
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Canada
242 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faken to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting... the Statue of Liberty was indeed registered with the copyright office, but has since expired AND it's considered public domain, so it can be replicated, photographed etc etc for commercial or personal use without release. So it will be very interesting to how this translates for a private company's replica that IS protected work of a public domain piece of art. Will be an interesting case to follow.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
238 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Buck49 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
What do you think ... is the law suit justified?


No. This copyright thing has gotten way out of hand. It is being used to protect things that it was never intended to protect.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
786 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Deep Pockets Syndrome __ Remember the Korean War Statue on a stamp some years ago that the USPS lost an infringement suit? Until the courts realize that many common items, venues, etc. are just that and in the public domain (tissue vs. Kleenex)people will try and some succeed (unfortunately)
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
12128 Posts
Posted 12/02/2013   6:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting perspective of just how this law suit may very well come back to "haunt" the US Postal Service:

http://postalnews.com/postalnewsblo...nfringement/
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1624 Posts
Posted 12/03/2013   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for answering my question about what they purchased. I'm sure if they had known there were royalties involved they could have just used the original liberty for there design.
Tom
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
5894 Posts
Posted 12/03/2013   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think he does have a legal leg to stand on. His work was used for a commercial enterprise without due permission or license. The real question will be, I think, whether the statues was meant to be a replica of the Statue of Liberty or was meant to be a stylized version of Lady Liberty. I wouldnt be surprised if he hasn't been trying to work with the USPS on a private lavel to resolve the issue.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
101 Posts
Posted 12/03/2013   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DuncanDoenitz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see what is original In the artist's work - it's a deliberate attempt to copy the original statue.

So how can he claim that an image which is a national icon is somehow now "his", which he copied for free and is now trying to sell back to us? What an ass. His actions just tarnish what the statue represents.

I'm just saying...

-Dunc
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by DuncanDoenitz - 12/03/2013 5:06 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1624 Posts
Posted 12/04/2013   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I fear that this is going to turn into an all about money situation. You made a good point Duncan.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Canada
242 Posts
Posted 12/04/2013   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faken to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Either way, this will likely be settled out of court like 99% of these cases. USPS could lock this up for years and years and just run this guy dry. So they'll point that out, offer a cash settlement and everyone holds hands and sings Kumbaya.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Faken - 12/04/2013 12:51 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1624 Posts
Posted 12/05/2013   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We
'll just have to follow it and see what happens which I'm sure our fearless moderator will for us.
Tom
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 9,828Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.25 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05