#11 Color Sampler - Show Your Images

Here's an image showing a sampling of six of the color varieties associated with US Scott #11. Top row: rose red, deep claret, brownish carmine (more red); Bottom row: dull red, orange red, yellowish rose red.

Collecting quality color specimens of this issue is challenging and rewarding. Please comment, question, and show your images of Scott #10 and #11 colors.

Very nice to see as a reference.
I do not have any yet but this makes for a more interesting hunt.
Thank you.

When an image is named so it is searchable on SCF here as well as online search image engines it is more accessible to those who use online resources.

Not a very good study of color. The two on the right look like they came from the same cover and are the same color.

Very nice Classic Coins

I sometimes struggle when trying to distinguish color differences.
Luckily I don't collect varieties only when they are listed on the pages I print

Dianne

I added a description to tag the colors on the same image:

Coop,

Thanks for the labels! They make the set much easier to use. I wish I could do graphics work like that.

Stampcrow,

Thanks for the image of your three #11s. I agree, the two on the right were from the same cover, and probably from the same sheet. It's cool when you can reunite a pair like this after 160 years! All three appear to be of the same color. The color is hard to pin down. It looks like brownish claret, but could be brownish carmine/more brown.

Glad to help out. Images tell the story a lot better than words. Words on a collage is a great teaching aid. I'm big into images that teach. I hang out on the coin forum and use images a lot. I used to collect coins and stamps as a kid. The classic stamps are my favorites.

Stampcrow,

I like NYC cancels. I can date the left stamp to either 1851 or 1852. If it is 1851 then the stamp is a #10A. Your scan makes it tough to tell what it really is. You should post a better scan of that stamp. The other two are cancelled with a CDS device that I think first appeared in early 1853 and I don't really think it was in service when the 1856 brownish carmines or the 1857 clarets were being printed. I think the color is probably an 1853-54 dull red.

I have 8 of these . I thank you for the chart to compare them to. This is is a big help

If sinclair2010 happens to open this thread, sorry I missed your post when it was first offered. Here, is a somewhat, better scan of the stamp.

As always, identifying color across the Internet without calibration is nearly impossible. When dealing with imperforate examples of this series, the concern is #10/10A or #11/11A.

The U.S. Philatelic Classics Society has a great page that highlights some of the differences:
http://www.uspcs.org/the-1851-1860-...-10-and-10a/

That will give you good clues as to what you have.

Other than a dated cover that proves that it is early enough, plating a stamp is the only method to know for sure that you have a #10/10A vs. a #11/11A. Plating requires a large investment by buying the Chase photographs and learning to plate for yourself. Otherwise you can pay for a service to plate it for you.

If you think that you might have a #10/10A based on the USPCS link above, then create a new thread with a clear scan for us to look at.

Here is an example of a lightly printed Orange Brown #10A that is confirmed by date of the folded letter that it is attached to:

Just got a new (old model) Epson V370 scanner, since I've been very disappointed in the color rendering of the CanoScan LIDE 200 scanner that I used to acquire the first image in this thread. As a stamp color specialist, I've always been impressed with the color rendering of Epson scanners.

So . . . I'm going to use my #10/11 color set to show some color varieties in truer color, with the disclaimer provided by Historical DNA Collector above. Monitor settings are another variable that can change how these stamps look to each of us.

Here is an orange red #11 (76L4) at left, and an orange brown #10 (3R5e) at right. Orange red is sometimes mistaken for orange brown. Orange brown ink is almost always of superior quality with a rich appearance, compared to orange red which typically looks weak and pale in comparison. And then there is the lack of brown in the orange red color:

@Classic Coins, you have beautiful scott #11 color reference and @coop very good classified.

I have sure not so good #11 but some color tone. here my stamps to scan from cover's to classified.

I just realized I mislabeled the first stamp in the bottom row in my first post of this thread. It should read YELLOW BROWN, not dull red!

I'm going to try to post another color set with the new scanner.