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3c Washington #10 Worth Something?

 
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Posted 03/20/2014   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add txb98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello! This is my first post!
I have an old stamp book, and after some research, I'm wondering if some of my stamps worth something.

I scanned this one:





is it worth something? it is far from Mint condition
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Posted 03/20/2014   12:47 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is Scott #11. Cat value $11.00

This one is average and probably has a retail value of $1.00

Brian
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Posted 03/20/2014   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 2013 Scott Catalog puts the value at $15 (used). A +$1.50 premium is also added for the "PAID" cancellation.

Unfortunately, the example shown is less than desirable because of how the stamp was separated (especially at the bottom) where it cut into the words "THREE CENTS".

It would still be a desirable item for a collection, but not worth a great deal in terms of monetary value.
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Posted 03/20/2014   1:19 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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My 2013 Scott Catalog puts the value at $15 (used).


I really need to update my copy that I keep in my office (2004)!
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Posted 03/20/2014   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txb98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow! thanks for the fast reply!

I'm currently scanning a part of my album in higher resolution, I'll post it probably today. thanks again :)
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Posted 03/20/2014   2:21 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"I really need to update my copy that I keep in my office (2004)!"

I suppose so. The Type II in the so-called "dull red" color is actually an #11A now.

"A +$1.50 premium is also added for the "PAID" cancellation."

I take exception to the suggestion that the "PAID" cancel on this stamp garners the premium. The premiums are for good strikes, and furthermore, the large Boston "PAID" is one of the most common cancels out there...
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Posted 03/20/2014   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
11A ?

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Posted 03/20/2014   7:52 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallzer, It is a Type II and doesn't look like an orange brown so yes, #11A.
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Posted 03/22/2014   6:17 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Winston, the reason I didn't proceed with the 3c 1851's is that even from the Chase book, I couldn't recognize the plates. Using Stallzer's stamp, can you tell by looking at it, which plate, and can you share why? Appreciate it.....Ray
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Posted 03/22/2014   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Both txb98's and stallzer's stamps were printed from plate 2L or 3, so both are positively #11A. txb98's stamp was printed from a worn plate, dating the stamp to well after the #10 usage period, and the very common (no premium) Boston paid cancel is contemporary for #11.
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Posted 03/23/2014   5:40 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CC-- thanks for the response. Would love to know the markings that show that this is from either of those two plates......
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Posted 03/23/2014   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just seen that one Carol Chase plating reference book on ebay but the price is like 65.00 bucks! It would be worth it if one could afford such a luxury. Right now ebay won't load for some reason? I quit..
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Posted 03/23/2014   6:27 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ray isn't too cheap to buy the book he just hasn't studied the stamps enough yet. For those who fall for the false economy of not spending money on good reference books you can now at least download them for free on the USPCS website.

It is a pretty simple matter to sort the Type II Dull Red stamps into three groups, Plate 1L, Plate 2 and 3, and Plate 5L. Plate 1L stamps almost always have the top of the upper right diamond block gouged out as well as parts of the top of the upper label block. Plate 5L stamps frequently show very noticeable signs of re-entry, finely recut inner lines, and sometimes only one inner line. Plate 2 and 3L stamps are all of the rest of the stamps. Some Plate 3 stamp are recognizable at a glance because of extra or missing framelines.
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Posted 03/23/2014   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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CC-- thanks for the response. Would love to know the markings that show that this is from either of those two plates......

The keys to identifying both stamps as being printed from plate 2L or 3 is that they both have inner frame lines, and they both have one horizontal line recut at the top of the upper right diamond block. Both plates 2L and 3 have very similar diagnostics. I wrote web guide to identifying the #10 and #11 plates over a decade ago. I turned the web site over to the US Philatelic Classics Society last year, and it can be found at the following link. The closeup image at the top of the page (from my collection) clearly shows the recutting at the top of the label block and also at the top of the upper right diamond block:

http://www.uspcs.org/the-1851-1860-...2%A2-plates/
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Posted 03/23/2014   7:30 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"The keys to identifying both stamps as being printed from plate 2L or 3 is that they both have inner frame lines, and they both have one horizontal line recut at the top of the upper right diamond block."

True, but you can't eliminate Plate 5L as a possibility that way.
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Posted 03/23/2014   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sinclair is correct. The plate 5L impressions also have inner lines, which generally are faint compared to 2L and 3.
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