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Posted 05/23/2014   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ray, is that a Type II, Scott 20?
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Posted 05/29/2014   2:58 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CW-- although a #20 has a much lower CV than a #23, I wish it was a #20!

My reasoning is the this without a doubt a Plate I Late stamp, which has that hollow look that came from the poor and dirty condition of that plate. Plate I Late is all Type IV with the exception of one position, I think, 41R1L which is a Type II. Since it is 1 of 200 positions it is a rare, and highly sought stamp...so I definitely wish it was.....

Hope this helps, Ray
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Edited by ray.mac - 05/29/2014 3:34 pm
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Posted 05/29/2014   11:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another interesting ebay stamp in transit. Note the line through bottom of "2".



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Posted 06/08/2014   02:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For all of you 279B lovers out there... enjoy viewing this
PB... picked it up from Bill Langs... and, remarkably, with
all of his experience, he had it listed as 267... (smiling)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/267-PLATE-B...em2ec25e1ff8

Will be sending it to Bill W for cert...
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Posted 06/08/2014   08:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
disi123....
1st...it is a #279B
2nd...it is NOT a PB...you need the 2 stamps to the left,
that are missing. You are missing part of the inscription.
Sorry.
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Posted 06/08/2014   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin is right, it is not a plate block...........

And talking about the 1c 1851-57 stamps, something about them that is rarely discussed is the fact that all of the different types are identified and defined by specific design characteristics. All of this info, along with pictures, is freely available in the Scott catalog and elsewhere. My point is to state my opinion that when a copy of a 1c 1851-57 stamp does not show clearly the EXACT design-defining characteristics that it should, it is *not* a very desirable stamp, except possibly to a specialist interested in plating.

To make my point a different way, a Scott #22 (Type IIIa) is defined by having an outer center frame line BROKEN AT TOP OR BOTTOM, BUT NOT BOTH. Therefore, if a copy does not clearly show a break because the full design is not present because the stamp was misperfed and the design was cut off, then even though plating CAN identify this kind of a copy as type IIIa, since you literally can't tell it's that type without plating, it is highly undesirable in my view.

And it is quite common to find 1c 1851-57s with part of the design cut away at either the top or bottom or both, and virtually all of these are, IMO, uncollectible. But to clarify as it pertains to this post, in the case of Ray's #19, that stamp is quite nice as an example of the type because it has a 100% full bottom. In that case, even though the top is cut away, it is still desirable because of the full bottom. But in fairness, the stamp that is a #23 with the top cut off, is not desirable as a good example of that stamp. That doesn't mean some collector with lower standards might not want it at a "bargain" price and surely there might be money to be made for someone who buys it as a cheaper variety then resells it for a profit as the true ID. In those cases, plating and/or expert certs help raise the price.
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