Scott 707 With Wrong Perfs.

Scott Cat. show the perfs at 11 x 10.5. The perfs on this stamp are 11.5 x 10.5. Possible re-perf?

Stamps should be scanned/photographed against a
BLACK BACKGROUND.....it shows up better....
easier to see.
I think you should check your perf guage.
There is no reason to reperf this stamp.

I have triple checked the top and bottom perfs at 11.5. What does this mean if the perfs are wrong?

I'd like to see another image of the
stamp with your perf measuring tool
adjacent to the stamp...

are you friggin kidding me?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/United-Stat...em3f391cf00e

No joke,you can return it if it is not 11.5 x 10.5 perf.

That sure is a bargain....

I WILL NO LONGER ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS!!

It is amazing how you flyspeck and find all these
SUPER RARE unlisted ERRORS when no one else has
for the last 100 years+++..........

Maybe you should learn CORRECTLY.

IM FINISHED WITH YOU!!
(hope others are also)

CoinWatcher,
You just had a post yesterday reflecting your inexperience with a perf gauge. Nothing wrong with that, everyone had to learn at some point. But please understand that you have more to learn and one of those things is that you shouldn't be throwing this stuff on ebay with those kinds of descriptions and asking prices. It is misleading, even if you offer to accept returns.

Think about it, someone bites on your misleading listing and sends you the $250. You pocket the cash and send them the stamp. They either measure the stamp properly or even worse, spend money on getting an ID/cert. You then have to deal with an irate customer who demands their money back. You incur shipping costs, have to refund their cash, and hope it doesn't get around that no one should buy anything from you.

Is this really worth the chance that you might score a $250 windfall if you can find a clueless buyer? And what does this do for the hobby? You now have a person walking around with a $1 stamp who paid you $250.

Another thing to learn is that not every rare stamp has made it way into your hands. You need to start always assuming the opposite. Assume that the chances you have stumbled upon a rarity is near zero. Assume that you have measured wrong, looked it up incorrectly, or that it has been altered or faked. Certainly don't throw it away, simply do what have been doing. Come in here and get these folks opinions on it. But listen to them, if they say it is not rare then believe them.

If you are bound and determined that these folks are wrong, then invest YOUR dollars in a good ID or cert. After you get it back, come back and let us know how it turns out. But don't throw it on ebay with silly descriptions and big asking prices.

You are trashing your reputation, risking dollars and angry customers, and certainly not helping philately with how you are doing things now. Again, we all came through a learning curve. You still have time to write this off as 'learning how to list' and recover your reputation but if you do not stop it may become too late.
Respectfully,
Don

Again, I'm not sure why you keep feeding this troll. Coinwtcher, you're s complete joke and hopefully all will finally stop answering your questions. Hopefully the site admin will get sick of you pulling this crap and finally ban you.

stallzer, please stop being so rude!
I have just discovered a 1/2c Nathan Hale Unlisted 11x10.5 perf ROTARY PRESS 22.5 mm. in length. I am not sure if I will share it here because of all the rude criticism.
Skeptical criticism is acceptable, but the closed minded rudeness is not.

The perforation gauge is metric and is not a measuring device. If comparing perforations, always line up a hole at one end or the other. The images make it clear that perf 11 is closer. The perforation gauge is the count of the number of perforations (and halves) that fit within a two centimeter interval. In order to be perf 11 1/2, at least 11 and 1/2 perforations would have to fit within the interval.

The engineers and machinists who designed and built the perforation machines used in the 19th and early 20th century in the United States used English measurement. The gauges designed and distributed by Richard Kiusalaa made good use of this notion. Kiusalas was able to show that US perforations could be measured accurately to the nearest .001 inch (or 0254 millimeter). Using the conversion it is possible to show that perf 11-70 would be approximately gauge 11.25.

Clark

Coinwatcher,

You might want to check out and try using the John Hart's free online stamp tool for checking perfs. It is located on his web site at http://www.americanstampcollection....s/viewer.php

I found it a bit fussy to use but with some practice it may help you quite a bit. First note that you have to start with an image where you know the d.p.i., without this you won't get accurate results. Since you have a scanner, I would recommend you scan a stamp at a high d.p.i. 1200 or 2400 would be good. I put together some step-by-step instructions on how it works.

1. First screen allows you to either upload an image from your PC to his site or use an online image. I don't know if I am doing something wrong, or perhaps he is out of disk space, but I have never been able to get the upload to work. But simply get your image online and it should work fine Photobucket or some other way to get a link to it but be careful that where ever you upload it to it does not 'optimize' the file since this might change the d.p.i.




2. Once the image loads you can change to the various tools available.




3. The default tool is the magnify tool, it allows you to take a close look at the perfs. Check for roundness, how the fibers are pulled, etc.





4. Press the 'S' key to change the tool to the Srail perf test. This is named after some obscure guy (just kidding Ken!) but provides a mirror image in which you check for perf alignment side-to-side or top-to-bottom.





5. Press the 'F' key to switch to the Washington/Franklin flat plate test. This superimposes a tool which you can use to get a good idea of the printed stamp size.





6. Press the 'R' key to try the ruler tool. Click once to set the anchor point and then move your mouse to the point you want to measure.





7. And finally press 'P' for the perf tool. Line the tool up like shown below. Press the '<' or '>' keys to change the perf gauge to the various sizes.



If you don't want to bother to upload an image here is a link you can use to test it out on the stamp shown above. This image is 2400 d.p.i.

http://www.americanstampcollection....jpg&dpi=2400

I took the time to make this post to help you.
Don

Me either. Some people are ignorant. Some people don't mind being ignorant. Some other people WANT to stay ignorant because of a see-no-evil mentality...If they aren't aware of their ignorance, they can't be accused of being dishonest.

Most fourth graders can see enough of coinwatcher to figure out what he is.

By the way coinwatcher...the issue here is not whether or not your stamp is 11 or 11.5 perforations. The issue is whether or not it is like all the others. It is. Try posting a picture of your 707 up against any other and show them to be different. Try posting that in your ad for $99.

That's my last reply to you.

"Dart to the heart"...

Wow, this is getting a little weird. Being a fairly new stamp collector I was just trying to share what I thought might be a new discovery which I found with my new perf gauge. OOps, I made a mistake, but I think I have a much better idea on how to use my new perf gauge now. This was a tough one as it was not 11 or 11.5 but about 11.25 according to cfrphoto. I have reduced the price on my stamp to $9.99 auction style.
I am glad I was here to help all of you take out your aggression, as I am sure you probably feel better now.

The stamp shouldn't sell for more than 49 cents

w/ free shipping