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Posted 07/20/2014   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please, gum not glue.
og., original gum.
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Posted 07/20/2014   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LarryBruce to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes gum breaker ridges would be nice to see as opposed to glue ridges lol. although who knows there might be glue on the backs of some stamps but we know people check the backs for gum (OG) vs glue usually and people probably picked up on that even if glue term used, if not and they think there was/is/ or wanted looking for glue on the back, there could be...ha your input as usual is so valued thank you so much for clarifying proper terms to use so as not to confuse anyone.
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Posted 07/20/2014   05:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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i was looking at your overprints and wanted to see the backs, a person cannot tell if they are real until they see the back.


I can guarantee mine are real.
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Posted 07/20/2014   05:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are fakes out there.....
BUT...these are relatively inexpensive and not often faked.
(especially compared to flat plate coils)
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Posted 07/20/2014   06:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LarryBruce to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nebr. Kans. are notorious for being one of the most faked the stamps do have suspect issues, not providing pictures of the backs is just one more thing.
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Posted 07/20/2014   08:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Nebr. Kans. are notorious for being one of the most faked the stamps


LarryBruce...
search ebay or any other site.
Link to a "fake" here.

You are making a mountain of a anthill over
"faked" Kans./Nebr. ovpts
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Posted 07/20/2014   2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LarryBruce to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just hanging for the sake of discussion, I really don't care,since it is so bothersome to you, we can just forget it. BTW your 101% wrong these overprint fakes were sold on ebay so badly that they had an expert weeding them out a few years back, you are obvously ill informed on the many fakes that used to show up over there saying they are not a problem is baloney a real laugh man.Your being evasive and argumentative in a simple thing it is you making the mountain of an (MOLE- remember gum vs glue we must observe the proper terms here please lol)ant hill and dancing around being uncooperative unwilling to show the backs of your stamps. I already provided info links that show what you ask, your just rehashing what we already said lol. Check your closed e's and your stunted b's and stumpy r's and all periods should be slightly up from the lettering line in Kans. and Nebr. you have one period that is clearly lower then the line, all things that make your stamps suspected fakes and a need to see the back for "gum" line breaks and type impressions in the "gum" all mentioned before. Reputation nothing to do with it, 100% feedback nothing to do with it, friends vouching for you nothing to do with it, not answering the so so simple request and question about your stamps HUGE red flag. You could have deflated this many posts ago and had the backs of your stamps posted but choose to continue the discussion, did you even see the block numbers that were used in these stamps in that one link that were the only block numbers used for these stamps? That was an eye opener, link provided. I don't get it what is the big deal, you task me to go run around the internet to get more fakes to post here yet you can't even post your own backs on your stamps in your auctions to verify time honored tests to authenticate them you just want me to bring others stamps here to discuss, a total waste of time. Whats up with that, when you could put it to bed one way or the other by providing pictures, you might have the one line break on them but we sure can't tell when you send me on a wild goose chase across the internet to evade providing more info on your own stamps. I never thought such a simple thing would be such a monumental task for one to provide pictures of the backs of stamps it is a real hoot with all the expertizing and being careful buyer beware crap now I know it is just a bunch of snobbery hooey flim flam when people go around saying oh just trust me it is not necessary ah mountain out of a "Mole" hill must be star wars "These are not the droids you are looking for, oh I got obewoned, moving along...nothing to see here...i git your drift man can't be bothered I am outta here lol I got things to do too...thanks for your input invaluable as always.
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have no clue what you are talking about....
I get lost from line to line with your lack of capitalization.....
no punctuation....etc. Guess most could accept that from non-US
members....
You keep asking for back scans of Kans/Nebr ovpts....
It is UNNECESSARY!! This is basic US colecting 101....
Anyone who is shown for 1x what to look for will NEVER be duped on these.
I keep telling you they are not as faked as you think they are,
thus I asked you to post a link of one you see faked.
You state you provided links to fakes....where????
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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i think there are fakes here especially the 3c lincoln top row right-many letters not clear and blobbed ends to them, the b's and r's on some. One is way below the stamp kinda sloppy.


OK...guess you are not a fast learner.
This seller DOES show a back scan....
You can clearly see the grooved roller streaks on the back of
the 3c.....NOT FAKED!
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Previous thread discussing Kansas-Nebr fakes can be found here:

https://goscf.com/t/17199

Website linked inside is Riverside stamps

http://riversidestamps.com/KansNebrFakes.shtml

I see that the front and back of the stamp are equally important in order to check for fakes, etc.
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LarryBruce to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin-your not looking at all the signs mentioned you must take into account "all" the test not just gum break lines or ones you choose to acknowledge and disregard the rest,on other peoples stamps at that and not your own, not a good lesson to follow. the 3c looks fake by the guides as mentioned blobbed ends not clear not a fast learner, lol, if your just looking at other peoples stamps to provide reference to your own no pictures of your stamp backs and disregarding the other fake signs that is trouble with a capital t and not a lesson I would want to learn.

right partime, must see backs of the stamps, he says why bother lol and shows other peoples backs of their stamps, that is weird.

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Posted 07/20/2014   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Larry...
You are like all the others who ask questions...
Dont get the answers you want or believe and
think everyone else is wrong.
I guarantee you.....that that 3c is REAL.

I will no longer entertain you....
Please DO NOT EVER bid on any of my auctions....
I do not know what I am doing....deal???
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope Bill W chimes in later.....
If anyone looks at these for many years ...
either collecting/dealing, etc....
I guarantee they can glance at these and tell fake/real
in 1/2 second...just by looking at the ovpt.
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Posted 07/20/2014   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LarryBruce to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes let us take your word for it and forget the conventional rules, tests and time honored hoops to go through, just say what you have and answer no questions just except your word and do no investigation, trust you, the swamp land has a good view, you know that is not how it works. I already told you I would never buy without seeing the back of your stamps and all the dancing around it evading it and placing blame on me for your noncooperation with showing the backs of those stamps and saying it is a bother is hooey in the 1st degree. Of course I won't buy from you, not to honor your wishes but it is just common sense to be wary of non full disclosure of the description with pictures and told trust me I know what I am talking about and you don't , it is you that is saying everyone else is wrong and to take your word for it, I only asked one thing to see the back of your stamps, you said why bother, you said no end of story no sale!lol
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