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Posted 07/27/2014   1:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add littleriverphil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Since these stamps were part of Farley's "follies", a special printing, and not really part of the regular issues, would this cover front be concidered a philatelic use or is it actually a comercial usage?



This is the lower right corner showing the veryical and horizontal guide lines.

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Posted 07/27/2014   2:02 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you know when it was sent?
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since the "Farleys" were ungummed (for the most part)...
Why can not this be a #733 sheet???
My guess.
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:29 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the guidelines (horizontal and vertical) at the bottom and right edge are present (and blue as the color of the stamp), then it is Scott 753, since Scott 735 didn't have the guidelines.
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I were to venture a guess, I'd have to
say 753, based upon the logic side of it...

Unless a company had a machine to first
apply a wet adhesive to a sheet and then
attach to an envelope, the likelihood
would be 753. Wet a sponge, shake off
the excess water, then dab or wipe the
*gummed* sheet and apply to the envelope...

Also, given the $1.50 postage, more than
likely this was more philatelic use given
the ease of simply using a few individual
stamps to cover the postage amount...
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
DAVE/RANDALL....
Dave...
I assume you meant #733....
YES...there are guide lines on the #733 sheet.
Randall....
Your logic is for a #733 sheet, not #753.
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
or... 733 and 753 were printed from
the same plates... 21167 thru 21170...
I would defer to a Farley expert with
regards to Scott's references, which,
(IMHO) make little sense and are likely
incorrect...
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
733 = NGAI
753 = GUM
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YES...#733/753 were printed from the same plates.
#733 was gummed....
#753 was ungummed.
In order to get a #753 gummed it had to be returned
to the Philatelic Agency to be done.
You would have to return a SHEET of 200...
Then was seperated into sheets of 50...there was no difference in the #733 sheet.

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Posted 07/27/2014   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin... oops... you have it right...
I had it backwards... neither Scott
nor Durland are clear (Durland is worse)
Brookman has it stated correctly...
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NOPE...I am correct.
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.ebay.com/itm/22150652831....m1555.l2649

#733 sheet
Hard to see...but there are GUIDE LINES present.
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Posted 07/27/2014   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guess I'll stick to Brookman from now on,
for accurate Farley descriptions...

Scott
Durland
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Posted 07/27/2014   3:04 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin,

Reading the Scott catalog, it states "No. 753 is similar to No. 733. Positive identification is by blocks or pairs showing guide line between stamps. These lines between stamps are only found on No. 753".

This is why, if at the bottom and right side there are guidelines, it must be Scott 753.
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Dave....
Because #733 was not issued in SHEETs of 200...
you can only have LINE BLOCKs and CENTERLINE BLKs of #753.
They were only issued in SHEETs of 50. (#733)
Singles are EXACTLY the same.
If you get a GUMMED POSITION PIECE of the 3c Byrd....
They had to be returned to the Agency for gumming.
That is why I say that sheet shown above is #733.

No reason to return for gumming (in the form of a sheet of 200)
then seperate into a sheet of 50 and use as postage.
A bit of over-kill.

Edited for spelling....KL
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