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233 Off Color? Neat Cancel.

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Posted 08/29/2014   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add maverickx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What are your thoughts on this one? Neat cancel. Any ideas?

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Posted 08/30/2014   06:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glenn Estus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Space filler at the least. Throw it away.
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Posted 08/30/2014   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice centering but is it a cancel or a child with a marker in hand?
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Posted 08/30/2014   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ugly cancel, but maybe of more interest is that this is the "3-leaf" variety of Scott 233. Save it for that. I've always thought Scott should list & price this variety too, just like they do with things like the 2c broken hat, broken frameline, etc. Equally (un?)important IMO.
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Posted 08/30/2014   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a period correct and a rather messy manuscript cancel. It is a 3 leaf but a space-filler just the same. I wouldn't throw it out however...
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Posted 08/30/2014   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By "neat" you mean sloppy? lol.
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Posted 08/30/2014   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks lol. It does look like a child wrote on it. Interest in note about the "3 leaf". I'll keep it.
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Posted 08/30/2014   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm curious. I brightened up the pic a bit to see it better. What makes this a spacefiller?





Looks like it has good centering, and all the perfs appear intact. Not sure about scuffing at the top center, but the rest seems well preserved. Don't know about the reverse.

To me this seems like a long way from being a spacefiller. Is this all about the pen cancel?
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Posted 08/30/2014   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Is this all about the pen cancel?


Exactly. Stamps of this period should typically have a handstamp or machine cancel. Pen cancels (a/k/a Manuscript Cancels) are far less desirable from this period.

Scott #233 has a catalog value of $9 in VF condition, but ebay sold sales suggest that copies with handstamp or machine cancels typically sell in the $1 to $3 range, so relatively speaking it's not a valuable enough stamp to be desirable with the pen cancel, especially since most collectors could acquire a better copy at a reasonable price.
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Edited by wt1 - 08/30/2014 2:41 pm
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Posted 08/30/2014   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. I thought it was very unique too...No way a space saver to me! Thanks for all the insight!
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Posted 08/30/2014   3:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know that what you're saying is true, that pen canceled stamps are less than desirable, that has always seemed odd to me. Postmaster of offices that earned less than $50 per year had to buy their own postmarking devices. Wouldn't the frugal postmaster be saving his/her pennies and use a pen instead? Pen canceled stamps of the last decade of the 19th century are scarcer than handstamped or machine canceled stamps. As you can probaly tell I like manuscript cancels. Like this stamp. If it was canceled in some tiny post office, its an early use. If it was favor canceled in Washington, its still an early cancel. Or this cover, Little River Cal used a pen long before that office bought a handstamp. Sorry, not trying to highjack the thread, just making a point.





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Posted 08/30/2014   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree little! Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either!
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Posted 08/30/2014   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone have or has anyone seen another manuscript cancel similar? What distinguishes this from a scribble on a stamp?
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Posted 08/30/2014   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it's autographed by Arrial Smmmy :)

I like it

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Posted 08/30/2014   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
<--- My avatar is one of my favorite stamps.

Not everyone hates pen cancels, but there are always people who are quick to judge.

Oh, here's another stamp from my album...



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Posted 08/30/2014   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maverickx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one, Kirk!
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