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Is This Pair Scott 532?

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Posted 10/31/2014   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add munroe47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I bought this pair as Scott 532 (Type IV), but I find what I think are inconsistencies: toga rope is not broken, toga button doesn't seem to have the Type IV pattern, nose shading seems to match Type Va (although the nose shading pattern isn't mentioned in the Type IV description).

The design measures 18.9mm wide x 21.5mm high. Can anyone confirm an ID on this pair? Any help is appreciated.

The seller will gladly take the pair back and refund my money, but I want to keep the pair if it is truly a 532.

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Posted 10/31/2014   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like its a Type Va, #534. Third row of shading dots on the nose missing two dots, has 4 instead of 6 dots. Only Type Va has this characteristic
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Edited by Al E. Gator - 10/31/2014 8:56 pm
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Posted 10/31/2014   10:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Positively 534... no ifs ands or buts...
a very nice pair by the way... worth keeping...

But if you feel you paid too much, then by
all means return the pair...
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Posted 11/01/2014   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add munroe47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for both responses. I thought it was a 534, but I did not know for sure if the nose-dot pattern was exclusive to type Va since the Scott catalog didn't give that info. Is there more informative/complete reference material for determining Washington-Franklin types than the Scott catalog?

Incidentally, the seller emailed me that he took a second look at his online picture and agrees that it is a 534. He apologized and wants me to mail back the item for a refund.

My other copy of a 534 pair is VF NH and has slightly better "definition" (for example, the toga button lines are more distinct), but it is not a guide-line pair. The copy shown on this thread is hinged to heavy-hinged. Either one fills my album space, so considering value only, does the NH copy trump the guide line copy or vice versa? (Scott doesn't give a price for the guide-line pair for comparison).
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Posted 11/01/2014   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Munroe... here's the book to get...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Washington-...em3ce4835bb1
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Posted 11/01/2014   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Munroe... here's the book to get...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Washington-...em3ce4835bb1


Is this book an Identifier, or just like a History book?


-IBFS
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Posted 11/01/2014   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Identifier... and one of the most thorough...
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Posted 11/01/2014   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Go to the web site www.1847USA.com as a good reference. It has a lot of information and clearly shows what to look for in identifying W/Fs. Also, www.jamesdire.com/W-F.html is good for W/F identifcation
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Posted 11/01/2014   6:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you use the dire link ".net" link below,
versus the ".com" link, it will take you
directly to the W-F's...

http://www.jamesdire.net/W-F.html
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Posted 11/01/2014   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Micarel...em1e93224e5d

Best for easy identification of US.
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Posted 11/01/2014   7:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin... never heard of (that) one,
but since you recommended it, I just
offered the seller $20 including shipping...

Let's see what they come back with...
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Posted 11/01/2014   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Randall-just too used to .com I guess. I knew it was .net but just typed .com anyway--old age maybe?
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Posted 11/01/2014   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dave... funny you should put it quite that way...

We had a discussion here at the office on that very subject
two years ago... and decided to clone our .com website onto
a .net domain... it's worked out quite well...

Randall
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http://www.amazon.com/Micarelli-Ide...p/0894871773
Randall....(and others)...
Here is the best deal....$29.99, NEW!
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Posted 11/02/2014   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add munroe47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the references for Wash-Franklin ID sources. Does anyone have an opinion about the value of the NH pair vs the guide line HH pair for Scott 534?
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Posted 11/02/2014   11:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
does the NH copy trump the guide line copy or vice versa? (Scott doesn't give a price for the guide-line pair for comparison).

YES, NH better item.
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