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#444 Coil On Cover

 
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Posted 11/16/2014   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stallzer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Pretty sure it's a 444. Any reason to be suspicious ?




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Posted 11/16/2014   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fireman451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cool cover and stamp
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Posted 11/16/2014   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a Type III to me. So the possibilities are 455 and 492 depending on the presence or not of a S/L watermark.

Using "photoshop", the top and bottom are very parallel. The top and bottom edge should measure about 21 to 22 mm according to this site: http://www.hgitner.com/reperfing-2-...d-coils.html

However that doesn't make sense because the design size is around 22mm tall. Anyone have a correct figure?

540 is also Type III but is coil waste with vertical perf 10. However, the top and bottom perfs would be 11. I can't see anyone cutting the top and bottom perfs off of a stamp in current issue so very parallel for any reason.
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Posted 11/16/2014   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Positively Ty III... higher likelihood of 492
given the CDS date, but wouldn't preclude the
possibility of 455... the EDU's were only two
years apart from each other...
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Posted 11/16/2014   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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540 is also Type III but is coil waste with vertical perf 10. However, the top and bottom perfs would be 11. I can't see anyone cutting the top and bottom perfs off of a stamp in current issue so very parallel for any reason.


Highly doubtful there's any possibility of a tampered 540...
there's hundreds of 455 and 492 on cover on ebay... both
with very low catalog value... many with much better centering
than this example...
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Posted 11/16/2014   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, well that answers the question on whether or not it's anything to be suspicious about :)
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Posted 11/16/2014   8:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
disi, I was just stating the obvious to help satisfy any of stallzer's doubt. Do you or anyone else know what these horizontal coils should measure from top to bottom edge of the overall paper (not just design)?

stallzer, no worries and skepticism is always a good trait to have.
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Posted 11/16/2014   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Do you or anyone else know what these horizontal coils should measure from top to bottom edge of the overall paper (not just design)?


Quoting Bill Weiss from the current 384 discussion...


Quote:
The stripper blades were about 25mm apart for horizontal coils
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Posted 11/16/2014   11:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is either a 455 or 492. If it is a genuine coil, which it appears to be, it can not be anything else. It is Type III. It is a rotary stamp. If it is watermarked it is 455. If not then 492.
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