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Posted 03/29/2015   01:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
About a year ago, I found the following 569 double transfer stamp on ebay. I won the auction, total including shipping was $25.00.

The dealer who listed this stamp did not indicate this was a double transfer, perhaps he did not know, at least he was unaware.

Just goes to show, you can find interesting plate varieties if you pay attention to details.

I've found a good number of interesting plate varieties on ebay and in dealer's stocks at stamp shows.

I never buy a recognized plate variety or go after the unrecognized plate varieties. I enjoy the chase!





Dave
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Posted 03/29/2015   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately it is centered very low so part of the DT is missing, it shows in the bottom margin as well. This is one variety that is best centered to the top. Mint examples are around, but it is VERY scarce used or precancelled.
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Posted 03/29/2015   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats! Thats one of my favorite double transfers, really shows up well.
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Posted 03/29/2015   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oracle of Delphi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Elementary questions, if I may, being newly returned to collecting. What is a double transfer, is that different than a double impression, and where in the stamp pictured are there signs of that? To my unpracticed eye, I don't see any major differences from a normal stamp other than a few marks around the top right corner, some of the letters in "Postage" and the "30" in the lower right. Thanks.
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Posted 03/29/2015   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe stampmaster you probably have what is called a "Shifted transfer", or what is called a "misplaced re-entry".

Check it out at the link below...

http://www.re-entries.com/terms.html#shift
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Posted 03/29/2015   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert.....stampmaster is correct.
It is a double transfer.
It is a listed variety in Scott.
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Posted 03/29/2015   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Canada and some other countries they are called shifted transfers, in the US they are usually called double transfers.
Oracle of Delphi, those marks you are describing is the double transfer. There is a good description of how plates are made and what a double transfer is in the front of the Scott catalogs.
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Posted 03/29/2015   10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi All

Wert, the hot link to the web site you listed, is one of my old standby's. I've always learned something when I visit this site.

I lived and worked in England, some English refer to these as shifted transfers, or re-entry, but other's over there refer to them as Double Transfers. So take you pick what you want to call it.

I wish this was a perfect stamp, but really how often does one find a perfect stamp, I was lucky no one else bid on it, I'm very happy with my example.

Oracle of Delphi, you asked what is a double transfer: A double transfer occur when an impression which was entered out of alignment, and is not completely removed before a new impression is laid down. Remnants of the first impression pick up ink and reproduce their image along with the new impression.

Double impression is a second impression over the original impression.

Thanks to Oracle of Delphi for asking your question. Hope I've helped in some small way.

Dave

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"A double transfer occur when an impression which was entered out of alignment, and is not completely removed before a new impression is laid down. Remnants of the first impression pick up ink and reproduce their image along with the new impression".

That is one way that a DT occurs, and is almost certainly how one as large as the 569 DT happened. However DT's can happen in other ways as well. Many were caused when a plate got worn and was re-entered slightly out of alignment. Also sometimes during the rocking in process the transfer roll would slip, causing "slip transfers" or would twist, causing twisted transfers. They are usually much smaller than the 569 DT.
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Posted 03/30/2015   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oracle of Delphi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for your very helpful and informative replies. My education continues . . .
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Posted 03/31/2015   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oracle of Delphi

One thing that might or might not help you, is search on ebay for Double Transfers, of course start out in the stamps section. Just a thought.

Dave
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Posted 04/04/2015   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oracle of Delphi

I just checked ebay, there are a few R27's with double transfers in the bottom letters. These are not listed as double transfers, so maybe if this is something you'd like to add to your collection. Check them out.

I've noticed over many years (I keep notes), that there is a lot of R27's with double transfers.

Dave
p.s., Sorry for all the children out there, there will not be any Easter Presents this year, this morning I ran over the Easter Bunny with my Jeep!
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