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Perfin With A Number & Letters..?

 
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Posted 04/13/2015   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Take a look at this State of New York stock transfer tax stamp....There is a number with the perfin, is this a number that changes as stamps are perfined..?

Or a number associated with a Company..?

Thanks, Robert


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Posted 04/13/2015   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BW&H = Baker Weeks & Harden

The punch cancel (rather than a perfin) provides the ID and date as it ties the federal and state revenue stamps to the documentary form:





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Posted 04/13/2015   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"The punch cancel (rather than a perfin) provides the ID..." The difference between the two is something that I have no knowledge of. I will be grateful to learn the distinction between them.
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Posted 04/13/2015   11:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a similar stamped document with both a perfin and a punch cancel on the same stamp. The smaller stylized J&Co perfin identifies the company and discourages theft without ruining the value, and was applied to the mint stamps before application to the document. The punch cancel also has corporate initials and an additional date, and ties the stamp to the document thus cancelling the stamp and its value. Photo is taken backlit to show, the perfin to the stamp only and the punch cancel going through both the document and the stamps.

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Posted 04/14/2015   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As long as we're on the subject of NY Stock Transfer Tax Stamps, here's an older one with (what looks like) a punch-type (rather than perfin type) identifier with the initials "B&C". Does anyone know what firm would have used this device?

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Posted 04/14/2015   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that information.

Robert
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Posted 04/14/2015   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all

You might want to try looking at the perfins forum in FB at

https://www.facebook.com/groups/456934271039532/

A lot of the members in there are well informed.

Chimo

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Posted 04/15/2015   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well informed about perfins I meant.

The forum I gave the link in my last posting has members from the Perfin Society based in the US.

Chimo

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