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Posted 05/10/2015   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add chaulkdust to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Still looking for a decent 500 - saw this on ebay and it doesn't look like a 500 to me. I was going to report it to stamp smarter but would like others to look first.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-1917-Sco...em19ff2c9c2e
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Posted 05/10/2015   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a #500 (in my opinion)
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Posted 05/10/2015   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Positively *not* a 500... and, not even a decent 499...
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Posted 05/10/2015   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you can budget this one, I recommended it once
to you before in a previous thread...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/500-F-VF-ne...1&rmvSB=true

IMHO... the chances of finding a nicer cancel than
this copy ~ are fairly slim, as most would likely agree...

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Posted 05/10/2015   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, not a 500.
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Posted 05/10/2015   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When a seller makes this type of error and other similar errors on other listings, the best policy is to avoid unless you believe that the seller will eventually make an error in the buyer's favor. A quick look at other US revealed that the seller identification tends to be random but biased toward identifying less expensive varieties as more expensive ones.

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Edited by cfrphoto - 05/10/2015 10:08 pm
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Posted 05/10/2015   11:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A check of previous reports on Stamp Smarter reveals that this seller rarely revises listings when contacted. In fact, I have had personal email exchanges with him and he seems like a well-intentioned person, yet always seems to have excuses why he hasn't revised something. So, bottom line, I agree with Clark's assessment.
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Posted 05/11/2015   12:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Considering the price (and condition), nobody with half a brain
would buy it anyway... he's likely waiting for some uneducated,
witless schlep to come along to part with their hard-earned cash...
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Posted 05/11/2015   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
disi123 said "IMHO... the chances of finding a nicer cancel than this copy are fairly slim, as most would likely agree..."


I don't agree. This is the second time I've seen this stamp posted (& recommended for purchase) and no one else commented so I will -- IMO that's not a cancel and the stamp isn't used. I'd consider it unused no gum w/ several distracting carbon inclusions (most likely what those black spots are.) It looks like someone even tried to "pick" the one in the ribbon, making it worse (the usual outcome when someone tries that, assuming they're not successful in creating a thin by removing it completely, LOL.)

IMO an unused NG Scott 500 w/ imperfections is not worth the asking price (or the $85 that disi123 suggested offering in the other thread.)

I'm just posting this in case anyone was seriously thinking of buying it. I don't know any knowledgeable collector, dealer, or expertizing committee that would consider this a "used" stamp, and a certificate from any major service would surely mention the blemishes.

www.ebay.com/itm/191016392081
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Posted 05/11/2015   12:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chaulkdust to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Posted to Stamp Smarter today, notified seller.
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Posted 05/11/2015   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I don't agree. This is the second time I've seen this stamp posted (& recommended for purchase) and no one else commented so I will -- IMO that's not a cancel and the stamp isn't used. I'd consider it unused no gum w/ several distracting carbon inclusions (most likely what those black spots are.) It looks like someone even tried to "pick" the one in the ribbon, making it worse (the usual outcome when someone tries that, assuming they're not successful in creating a thin by removing it completely, LOL.)

IMO an unused NG Scott 500 w/ imperfections is not worth the asking price (or the $85 that disi123 suggested offering in the other thread.)

I'm just posting this in case anyone was seriously thinking of buying it. I don't know any knowledgeable collector, dealer, or expertizing committee that would consider this a "used" stamp, and a certificate from any major service would surely mention the blemishes.


Negotiating a purchase with the seller just to prove ALL OF THE ABOVE
is no more than a conceited pile of unmitigated jibberish... I don't
want the stamp, nor need it and I'll offer it up for sale at a half
of what I pay for it just to prove the point..... "LOL"
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Posted 05/11/2015   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp is on its way to me... can't wait to upload the scans
and negate all of the comments by the naysayer... Mr "LOL" himself...
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Posted 05/11/2015   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tipzi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Speaking of #500, what are the chances that an engraved Type Ia perforated stamp would be trimmed to fake a #534B, the rare imperf offset Type VII? And what would you think such an abomination would sell for on ebay? See for yourselves:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/x130-534b-x...047675.l2557

Yep, that's a butchered #500 (or maybe a #482A - that would be poetic justice). Even if this was an altered offset Type VII to start with, the lepton-sized margins clearly give away the fact that it began as a perforated stamp with a right-side straight edge. But to start with an engraved stamp? Clearly the faker, seller and buyer are about equally clueless in this case.

Filling spaces is important, but the lesson here is never spend substantial money on a stamp you know nothing of what makes it so valuable. This WAS a $200 stamp (well, maybe would retail $40 - $50 with the straight edge) made worthless by trimming the perforations off. How anyone could have thought this was a genuine imperforate is just beyond my comprehension.
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Posted 05/11/2015   10:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Abomination, indeed and agreed... and, it just goes to show how many
uneducated "collectors" there are out there to have even bid on it...

My guess is the seller likely figured he'd pull a higher resale than
a canceled 500... too bad... the 500 would have sold for more, unless
the perfs were so butchered, the seller chose this path...
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Posted 05/11/2015   11:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tipzi... check this one out... same seller...

Trimmed offset being sold as a 388...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/x111-388-RA...em3cf942d7c1

And a faked 315...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/x42-315-XF-...em3cf9880e01
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Edited by disi123 - 05/11/2015 11:09 pm
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Posted 05/11/2015   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tipzi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That "315" has a chance of snagging a sucker, but I'm not going to believe that the "388" will sell - but we'll see. Drum roll...

I'm sure the person who faked the #534B had no idea he was destroying a #500. He could have trimmed any number of jumbo #499's and at least gotten a decent-looking imperforate, or just trim a #528B like any other faker.
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