Is This 482A?

Hi,
I see you get this question quite often, but are any of these stamps a 482a? I know color is not the only factor. please help.

All are type I, probably 409. See the attached scan of a 482A and a 409. The heavy toga button outline and the extra part line (tick mark) in the right ribbon is very clear. The 409 shows no sign of a tick mark in either the right or left ribbon but it shows the heavy digs, lacking on the 482A, on the lower edge of the toga rope. I hope the differences are clear.

Clark

Correction: Changed toga ribbon to toga rope

"Toga ribbon?" Did you mean toga button? Doesn't 482A have heavier shading on toga button (not lighter)?

The bottom line of the toga button is lighter if the stamp is a type Ia. Note how heavy the digs along the bottom edge of the 482 are. Unfortunately, the cancel on the 482A partially obscures the lighter bottom toga ribbon line. A type Ia will have a stronger top line, a very strong toga button, especially at the bottom, and plating marks in the right or left ribbon. A type I will have a very clean gap where the second line would be in the left or right ribbon if the stamp was a type III (rotary press/coil waste only).

Clark

Thank you for the info Clark. The deep rose that you posted looks like this one that I have.

The stamp in the image above is a type I. The button outline is weak as is the top line in the toga rope. The digs at the bottom of the toga rope are quite strong. Keep in mind that the color is not definitive because two of the stamps on plate 10208 were reentered as type I. Perforated type I/Ia pairs are known to exist.

Clark

Edited to change toga ribbon to toga rope.

Thanks Clark. I was confused by the term "toga ribbon" which I now know is equivalent to "toga rope" a term I am more familiar with.

Hideandseeker, once you digest this stuff it gets easier to stomach...I learned recently, thanks to folks here, what Clark is saying.
I'm not great with images but I tried to circle the two key areas Clark is speaking of.
I circled the toga rope. In that area you can see the heavier ink lines. Also circled is the ribbon area. What you don't see is that extra, or what is the third line. That third 'line' is, I believe, usually very small.
That tells me mine is type I.
Look at Clarks Ia and you don't see the extra ink in the lower area of the toga rope and you do see that third small line in the ribbon.



I'm sorry..., that picture is pretty much useless. Hopefully I didn't muddy the waters.