What Postage Due Stamp Can This Be?

Hi everyone. Thank you so much for your previous posts. Well, I had this checked for watermarks by a collector who used a bremin mixture and claimed he definitely viewed a watermark on the back of this block of 4, however, he had no idea what the value of the block was worth. Can anyone inform me about these stamps? Is this a common block of 4 stamps? I do like the cancellation marking on them. I am still learning about these stamps.

unlikely [impossible] there is a watermark... looks like perf-11, J67

i went to stamp show, he checked it there. He said he saw it. That is why I am asking.

He claimed it was a single watermark noted in the top middle area near the perforations in the middle. Does these stamps with this color have a single water mark noted?

Blazenstar, all this stuff would be in a Scott catalog. You really need one! Also, if you ask a question like this, please give us the perforation you checked and if you saw the watermark or not. Watermarks are found by dipping the stamp in Ronsonol, available at drugstores. It is very hard for us to guess at all these things from just a scan.
By the way, Chasa already mentioned the Scott number, J67!

Peter

i agree with you chasa. that is why I thought that was strange. but he used a bremin mixture and said he saw it faintly. It does appear to be perf. 11 to me too which does not have any watermarks.

Peter..i do have a specialized scott's catalogue..however, it doesnot show all the different colors with these stamps. It only shows a pic of the J30 I went to check about this one specifically. I also looked up about it that is why I thought what he told me was different from what I read.

Blaze wrote:



I don't know what you mean by a 'bremin mixture" but it is not giving you reliable results. Please do tell us plainly what this stuff is.

The only watermark type attested for the Postage Dues is a double line watermark. The idea that there was only one watermark design (you do not say what letter it is) for an entire block suggests that something else (a thin perhaps?) was being identified as a watermark.

Is "bremin" a proprietary name, or the name for a class of liquid of some kind, or something more personal?

it was some kind of clear liquid he had and he claims he bought it at Michaels Arts and Crafts. it soaked it up like the lighter fluid when checked. He placed it on a tray, soaked it up and waved it with his tongs including it dried up immediately afterwards. I never heard of the mixture at all. but that is what he uses to check watermarks. He claimed he saw a USPS..i do not know if that is what you are suppose to see.. I am going to take Phil's suggestion and buy the fluid what he recommends. I don't mean to annoy all of you. I went to stamp show to learn more and this is what happened..hahahaha.. All of you seem to know much better!

OK, you have a Scott catalog. If you read this catalog correctly, and if the stamp is perf 11, it is J67.
You state above, it appears to be perf 11. What does "appears" mean? If you do not have a perforation gauge you need to get one. You also state the catalog does not list a whole range of colors. The stamps you show look to be the right color. And lastly, it shows a picture for the basic design, which would be the same for all the postage due stamps in that particular listing.

Peter

blaze, never be afraid to ask questions. If we're ever grumpy, it's only because we didn't get quite enough bran the day before.

yes, Peter..I have a Showgard Philatelic Gauge that I received from a stamp dealer, it also on the back of it shows a mount gauge for stamps too..smiles. The gentleman who sold this to me said this is an great product because it has boxes in it. He is an awesome evaluator of stamps too, but I haven't shown him this stamp. He does not attend the stamp show I went to. I was going there anyway to find other stamps, so I thought I would have this one checked. Again, I just recently started to collect the postage due stamps. I also have a stamp wallet and has a perforation garge inside of it too. Sometimes I use this one as well to check perforations.

My concern is that I did view this process of this collector checking a water mark on the back of the stamp at stamp show last week, and he claimed he viewed it. This was an older gentleman, and claimed he collected for years. But also read that there are no watermarks known for J67. So that is why I am confused about this stamp.I am going to have our local stamp dealer check on this specific stamp.

Colors: To attempt to clarify comments above - Scott lists several shades for J67, but does not illustrate them with a color chart of any sort. My own meager accumulation of J67 shows a considerable variation of shades.

thank you, John for your great photos. If anyone is interested to know

Ijust read on line about hobbizine united stamp values for postage due stamps for the 50 cents postage due with this specific design

They have it 1894-95- unwatermarked perf. 12- pale rose
1897- double watermark- perf. 12- claret
1910 single unwatermarked -perf.12- claret
1910 single line watermarked perf. 12- claret
1914- single line watermark- perf. 10- carmine
1916- unwatermarked perf. 10- Rose
1917-25 unwatermarked perf. 11- Dull rose


So there are definitely single line watermarks for the perf. 12 and 10.

Is this the watermark he said he saw..??

Robert

Robert..thank you for your thoughtfulness, but I am going to get it checked by the man who is a stamp dealer in the area. The kind gentleman who tested it expressed he saw it near the perforations in the middle area. He said he saw a U..I don't know what it is suppose to look like. If you see something.. please do comment..ty