Scott 219 Candle Flame?

These three do not have the distinct flame, like the others I have found. The first two appear to me to be candle flame. The last one doesn't appear to be attached to the numeral 1. Would it still be considered a candle flame? Thank you for your time in looking and commenting.




Candle on left



Candle on both



Don't know

I'm afraid I can't see well enough at this resolution/size.

Doubled the size of image. Let's see if this any better. edit: made it little bigger...

I have my monitor settings zoomed in, so I have no true idea how big this is going to come out, before I hit 'post'. Sorry if it's too big. Not trying to come off as a smarty pants. I scared myself when I hit post and it came up.

I'm afraid it's still not clear enough for me. That said, the "candle flame", when it's found, is pretty irregular in shape and size, isn't it? It's a function of the printer's action rather than of the plate.

Thank you KGB, for looking. I think I posted my last enlargements while you were typing.

Agree that the flames are irregular in shape. The distinct ones I have, actually have the more dark white, attached to the bottom right side of the numeral 1. These are a bit lighter, looks more like a paler blue, than white, but still look, to me, anyways, like a candle.

Except for the last one. It isn't attached to the bottom right of the numeral one, but it is not quite the same solid blue color I see on my other 219's. If that makes any sense.

That last stamp looks funny to me, seen up close. I wonder if this is the start of a worn plate.

I hope one of our more experienced members joins in on this thread. A lot of the guys specialize in Washingtons and Franklins.

Sure, why not a 'candle flame'... also it has nothing to do with "Washington/Franklins' which started to be printed 18 years later.

Haaha, I didn't mean to get anyone riled up. And I didn't mean to suggest the Washington-Franklin Series specifically.

As written on the Swedish Tiger.

"Mentioned by Brookman but rarely seen is the so-called candle flame variety. To the right hand side of either one of the two numeral ones on the stamp extends a white area, said to resemble the flame of a candle. An example is shown above.

The white area is created by a raised portion of the plate in this area, due to poor workmanship on the plate. When the ink is wiped from the plate this area is wiped of ink, thus causing the absence of ink above the foot of the number one. Due to this the shape and size of the flame can vary, thus this is a printing flaw and not a plate flaw."

me stamp is not var candle flame