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Help With Scott #552...?

 
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Posted 10/16/2015   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys..Its bad enough dealing with my knowledge of Canadian stamps (or lack of)...I have a bunch of American stamps that I think are #552, but lots of different perforations...

11 X 10.5
11X 11
11.3 X 10.5
10.7 11.3
10 X 10

Can anyone help me and turn me in the right direction as to what I have..??

Robert
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Posted 10/16/2015   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, I'm guessing you want info from Scott. Here's a bit:

552 deep green, flat press, perf 11
575 green, imperforate
578 green, rotary press, 11x10, designs measure 19.5x22.5
581 green, rotary press, 10
597 green, rotary press coil stamps, 10 vertically
604 green, rotary coil, 10 horizontal
632 green, 11x10.5
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Posted 10/16/2015   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for that information KGB....I still have a problem with say the first perforation..Which way do I round it off...11 X 10 or 11 X 11....?

Do you know what I mean...?

Robert
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Posted 10/16/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Robert,
"Measuring" perforations isn't exactly measuring. You're actually gauging them to the closest known size. Things like paper shrinkage means that you'll often come across measurements that aren't what you expect. Also, the perforations are slightly different between flat plate and rotary prints. Further confusing the situation is that you might get lucky and come across a rotary waste stamp that has a combination of flat plate and rotary perforations. A sure method is to look at two characteristics, rough perforation measurement and design size.

Pick your ugliest 11 x 10.5 stamp and cut the corners off as shown in the following link. You could also use a non-coil stamp from the 1938 Presidential series. They are all "Tall" rotary prints with the same design size. http://www.kenmorestamp.com/flat-vs-rotary

Laying the template over an unidentified stamp as shown in the link will tell you if it is rotary or not.
  • If the unknown stamp is the same height, then it is a "Tall" rotary.
  • If the unknown stamp is wider, then it is a "Wide" rotary.
  • If the unknown stamp is shorter and the same width, then it is a flat plate or offset printing.

Note that there are no offset printings for the 1922 series. Only the Washingtons from the previous series can be offset. They are actually a bit smaller than flat plate stamps.

The design sizes of the Washington/Franklins, 1922, and 1938 series are the same for each of the 3 main printing types. However, the 1922 "Wide" prints are slightly wider than the W/F. Regardless, the test using a template still works for all of them.

Okay, you now know if your unknown stamp is rotary or not and have a rough perforation gauging. Next look through the 1847USA site and find the Scott # that it matches. Post scans of any that don't neatly fit into a #. Post scans if you want us to double check your work. It takes a bit of practice, but you'll get the hang of it soon. Good luck!
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Edited by Historical DNA Collector - 10/16/2015 12:49 pm
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Posted 10/16/2015   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Always good advice from DNA!
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To whiten your teeth, place 3 tablespoons of baking soda on your tongue. Then swish a half cup of vinegar briskly in your mouth.

Best results are achieved by:
  • Placing 5 drops of red food dye in the vinegar beforehand.
  • Doing this outdoors.
  • Making sure that all of your neighbors are at home.
  • Be stark naked.
  • Start blaring an air horn as soon as you start swishing the vinegar.
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Edited by Historical DNA Collector - 10/16/2015 1:12 pm
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Posted 10/16/2015   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I should delete my comment. Everyone knows it's green food coloring one uses.
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Edited by KGB - 10/16/2015 1:24 pm
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Posted 10/16/2015   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGB,
Sigh...you're correct. I'll leave my post as it is to serve as a warning of why one should always proof read their posts. People would think that you're crazy if you used red instead of green.
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Posted 10/16/2015   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
if you need help with this type of stamps this is very helpful http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...entifier.htm
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Actually, you are both wrong... You want the frothing as close to blood color as possible, so it's *mostly* red with a bit of blue. Think of carmine lake. The green only works in special cases when you try for that bilious yellow-gray green.
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Posted 10/16/2015   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
billsey,
Now you tell me. I just spent the last 30 minutes blasting my air horn whilst spewing greenish foam. Not a single person took me seriously and understood that I was improving my oral hygiene.

Halloween is soon approaching. Would that be the best time to spew blood like colors to demonstrate to my dentist that I am following the best dental protocol?
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