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Scott 10A Right Inner Line Only. Edit: Also See Odd Marks

 
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Posted 10/20/2015   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampcrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is the "inner line at right only". From the uspcs site it can be from 77 positions. This stamp however is limited to the bottom row. That narrows the possibilities to eight. Four on 1e and four on 1i.

Having a line connecting the right upper triangle to the right upper label, should narrow this even more. I would guess it's one of the 1i positions.
Looks like someone dropped there stamp tongs onto the left shoulder, causing that dent.

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I'm replying to my own thread...man I've got it bad. But, looking at this stamp enlarged on the monitor, I'm seeing some phantom markings. Are these normal, inking items or even just optical allusion type marks?

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Posted 10/21/2015   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampcrow,

The circled areas on your second image are likely just ink splatter or something similar.

I'll see if I can narrow down the position.
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The circled areas on your second image are likely just ink splatter or something similar.

Kind of figured that. Not enough consistent markings to be any kind of doubling.

Using my camera on these, instead of the scanner, shows me quite a bit more detail.
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This is probably 94R1e. I don't know if I can confirm it from the image alone.
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That would be my first, identified, 1e plate.

I was supposed to be working on plating my "three row" stamps.

Then the Chase book arrived. I was supposed to be reading through the book, then
the chapter with center line information had me diving back into the stamps.
While back in the stamps I was once again distracted by OB's which led me to the inner line on one side only.

Which somehow led me to this stamp...




We of course talked about the 5L rust plates. But from what I read online, the 5L plate was used to late for this stamp. I base that on the cancel. Am I correct in that? If so, any thoughts on the marks showing on this stamp?
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Your second stamp has an east-west double transfer, not rust spots. I don't have time to plate it right now. I had figured your first stamp was from 1E, so wasn't surprised by Classic Coins' conclusion.

I forgot to answer part of your question... Plate 5L came into use long after the small Boston paid was replaced by the larger paid cancel. Plate 1L stamps are the only 11A's that can be found with the small Boston paid. The only exception is that I am unsure if a Plate 2L stamp has been found with the small paid cancel. I am thinking there may be a few out there and some may be in a shade called the early '52 OB. There is a small section in the Chase book on New York, Boston, and Philadelphia cancels.
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Stampcrow,

The stamp with the small Boston PAID cancel and double transfer is 26R2e . . . unless it's not orange brown, then it would be 26R2L in pale brownish carmine. It probably is a pale OB shade, but I can't tell for sure from your photo. The paler shades were typically caused by too much oil being used in the ink formula. If you see orange brown, then you have a 26R2e.

That is a guide dot below the S at bottom, although well left of where these normally appear. 26R2 has one line recut in the upper left triangle on both plate states, but I can't make it out because of the cancel.
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There is a small section in the Chase book on New York, Boston, and Philadelphia cancels.

sinclair2010, that's exactly where my nose SHOULD be buried.

Classic Coins, thanks for pointing out the guide dot. I didn't think it was.
About the color...when viewed initially, my thought was OB. Then a second look, it's not as obvious as other OB's.
Paler, is a perfect description. I put it on the scanner, next to one I'm more sure of.


And once again Gentlemen, thank you!
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The 26R2e certainly looks orange brown in the scanned image. That settles it.
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Excellent. Thanks.

I cringe at the thought of the bill, I should be receiving, from you and sinclair2010.
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Posted 10/23/2015   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just send me a blank check.
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It is great to see somebody take such an interest in the 1851 3c stamps.
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The popularity of the 3-cent imperforates never seems to decline. I specialized in the color varieties, and built a large master color chart.
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